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My gut tells me that it is upheld but with the mandate and medicaid expansion removed.

I feel the same way about the ruling. I think the mandate and medicaid expansion will be removed, but everything else stays.

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This conservative doesn't currently have health insurance.

This conservative doesn't believe the federal government can force the purchase of a private product.

This conservative wouldn't receive coverage, he'd receive fines/tax increases.

This conservative takes the above facts and draws the conclusion that the man who would put all that into place doesn't give one jack **** about the "little guy" as he claims.

But yeah, I guess I'm selfish about not wanting to pay for your healthcare, while still not having my own. Oh, and if the government can force you to buy a private product, I hope everyone will be required to purchase a Nissan next. Then I WILL be able to afford my own insurance.

Do you not have health insurance because it is expensive and you can't afford it in your current budget or do you not have health insurance because you simply do nto want it at this stage of your life?

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Band playing outside during decision

The crowd shots are hilarious. Look at these half naked people just banging a drum

What does that have to do with healthcare, where's your sign?

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This conservative doesn't currently have health insurance.

by choice or by economic hardship? if it's the latter, obamacare would fix that. if it's the former, well, i have no sympathy if you get sick, because it's me who will be footing the bill.

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I look forward to your brilliant analysis of the decision.

Which I'm sure we will get, in detail, by 10:15.

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Freeloader.

(I'm just messing with you, HH.)

:)

I hate not having insurance. I really do. If, God forbid, I come down with something serious, I'm screwed. They'll do maintenance and keep me comfortable. It's a scary thought. I'm conceited enough to believe that my daughters need me around.

But I just can't accept this as a solution. I was told I wouldn't see a tax increase of ANY kind. And depending on what they need to achieve at any given moment, the penalties are called fines or tax increases interchangably. So while the administration continues to "fudge" this, I'm told my reasons for opposing it are political; because that's what the party wants me to do. Does this accusation EVER stick? As often as it's used, some seem to think it's the be-all to end-all.

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I hate not having insurance. I really do. If, God forbid, I come down with something serious, I'm screwed. They'll do maintenance and keep me comfortable. It's a scary thought. I'm conceited enough to believe that my daughters need me around.

But I just can't accept this as a solution. I was told I wouldn't see a tax increase of ANY kind. And depending on what they need to achieve at any given moment, the penalties are called fines or tax increases interchangably. So while the administration continues to "fudge" this, I'm told my reasons for opposing it are political; because that's what the party wants me to do. Does this accusation EVER stick? As often as it's used, some seem to think it's the be-all to end-all.

Well, in a couple minutes you may have to buy insurance. I don't know what is going to happen, but I don't think having to buy insurance is really a terrible thing for you. Just my two cents.

Or you could go on the expanded Medicaid?

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Wolf Blitzer hyping this up like mad

important decision

impact every American

Edited by ixcuincle

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by choice or by economic hardship? if it's the latter, obamacare would fix that. if it's the former, well, i have no sympathy if you get sick, because it's me who will be footing the bill.

Economic. I pay 55% of my income in child support (without the promised tax credit, mind you.) And my employers plan is ridiculous for what's covered. If I took the coverage, I would actually have to write THEM a check every month.

---------- Post added June-28th-2012 at 10:02 AM ----------

Well, in a couple minutes you may have to buy insurance. I don't know what is going to happen, but I don't think having to buy insurance is really a terrible thing for you. Just my two cents.

Or you could go on the expanded Medicaid?

And that's what they want, isn't it? More government dependence. Hooray.

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Switched over to CSPAN coverage online. CNN was just too annoying to watch.

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Economic. I pay 55% of my income in child support (without the promised tax credit, mind you.) And my employers plan is ridiculous for what's covered. If I took the coverage, I would actually have to write THEM a check every month.

---------- Post added June-28th-2012 at 10:02 AM ----------

And that's what they want, isn't it? More government dependence. Hooray.

That's not fair. They want you to buy insurance on your own from a private insurer. If you did that anyway, this mandate does not affect your life in any way.

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SC struck Obamacare down like a Holtby save

Just DENIED it and sent it away

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Lot of CONFLICTING reports

Might be a tax, might be unconstitutional

The DRAMA

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Amy Howe: It's very complicated, so we're still figuring it out.

---------- Post added June-28th-2012 at 10:10 AM ----------

ix switch to CSPAN and scotusblog. No opinion just facts

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Wow. Thought it would be struck down, but it seems to live... though not in original form. Interesting.

Cursory yay! (Until more info comes in, perhaps?)

Roberts forming part of the majority.

Edit: I see I'm not the only one on Scotusblog right now. LOL!

Edited by mjah

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from scotusblog:

Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

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Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court.

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