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#1 LaRonDontLikeUgly

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:51 AM

taken from profootballtalk.com....

RAMS ADD CALDWELL

Adam Schefter of NFL Network is reporting that the St. Louis Rams have reached an agreement with free agent wide receiver Reche Caldwell.

Caldwell spent the 2007 season in Washington, and the Redskins were reportedly awaiting a decision from Caldwell, whom they offered a contract, as recently as yesterday. No details of the deal have been reported, but Caldwell apparently liked the offer he got from the Rams better than the offer he got from the Redskins.

Caldwell didn’t do much in Washington last season, playing in eight games and catching 15 passes for 141 yards. His best season came in 2006 with the New England Patriots, when he caught 61 passes for 760 yards. Prior to 2006 Caldwell spent four seasons with the San Diego Chargers.

In St. Louis Caldwell is likely to compete for the third receiver position behind starters Torry Holt and Drew Bennett.


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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:53 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:54 AM

Here is the ESPN article:

Reche Caldwell still hasn't cashed in on a big contract yet from his 61-catch season with the Patriots in 2006, but he's hoping to strike gold in St. Louis.

Caldwell agreed Tuesday to a one-year,$645,000 contract with the Rams. He had a minimum salary offer to stay with the Redskins and he also had an offer from Carolina.

He becomes the second Redskins backup to leave for the Rams. Last Friday, cornerback David Macklin signed a one-year deal with St. Louis.

The Rams will be the 28-year-old receiver's fourth team in four seasons. His career started in San Diego where he was a second-round pick of the Chargers in the 2002 draft.

He had 15 catches last season with the Redskins.

-- John Clayton, ESPN.com

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#4 jthor99

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:54 AM

I personally liked Caldwell I thought at times be brought some decent things to the offense. That being said its out with the old and in with the new..

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:55 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.


Yeah ... right.







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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:55 AM

Personally, I wanted him back.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:56 AM

I guess that's why St Louis isn't doing so well, they're picking up our leftovers :D

Sorry, couldn't resist. I actually wanted the skins to keep Caldwell, but it's not much of a loss since we have kept Mix

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:56 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.

I don't understand. What's "awesome" about losing Caldwell?

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:56 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.


Oh, that would be smart wouldn't it? :doh:

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:56 AM

Trash isn't going anywhere.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:58 AM

Here is the ESPN article:

Reche Caldwell still hasn't cashed in on a big contract yet from his 61-catch season with the Patriots in 2006, but he's hoping to strike gold in St. Louis.

Caldwell agreed Tuesday to a one-year,$645,000 contract with the Rams. He had a minimum salary offer to stay with the Redskins and he also had an offer from Carolina.

He becomes the second Redskins backup to leave for the Rams. Last Friday, cornerback David Macklin signed a one-year deal with St. Louis.

The Rams will be the 28-year-old receiver's fourth team in four seasons. His career started in San Diego where he was a second-round pick of the Chargers in the 2002 draft.

He had 15 catches last season with the Redskins.

-- John Clayton, ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=3310781




he made some big catches for us last year, but the bolded sentence is the one that really struck me in this article - it is proof that we are setting limits on how much we will pay for players and walking away if the offer is rejected.

i know that caldwell is not a huge name, but still - this phenomenon has been a rarity lately. would have been a nice player to keep, but if he wants more im glad we arent giving it to him.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:58 AM

Oh, that would be smart wouldn't it? :doh:


haha i was thinking the same thing :doh:

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:59 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.


Actually, Thrash's position is now even more solid now that Caldwell won't be back. With three reliable vets and a bunch of no-names behind them, it would take a lot for Thrash to fear for his job.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 10:59 AM

Our loss. I think he was a very solid receiver.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:04 AM

Sorry to see him go - I thought he was a very solid 4th receiver for us last year down the stretch.


Interesting that he seems to have taken a vet minimum deal with St Louis over the same money with us - they must have given him hope of more playing time than he would ikely have had with us to pad his stats and get a better deal somewhere in 2009.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:05 AM

That just means they want to get Sweed AND Nelson in the draft. :applause:

if we picked up both of them I would be fine with it

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:05 AM

Great to know Redskins Insider was all over this. I know he wasnt a world beater but i wish we would have kept him. Im so nervous about drafting a WR because historically we are so bad...Im all for drafting the lines. I know its not flashy but its the way we should go...

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:06 AM

Meh,

Even though it would have been nice for him to stay.
But this really gives Anthony Mix more chances.
We have like 4 WR now? Not counting the off season add-ons.

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Trash?

how about

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Nelson
Arrington
Espy / Monk ?


We could grab Jordy Nelson in the 3rd
Grab Adrian Arrington in the 6th or 7th

Bring back Mike Espy for training camp.
Perhaps get Marcus Monk as an UDFA? (dont know much about Monk, but seems like a lot of people like him)

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:08 AM

Sorry to see him go - I thought he was a very solid 4th receiver for us last year down the stretch.


Interesting that he seems to have taken a vet minimum deal with St Louis over the same money with us - they must have given him hope of more playing time than he would ikely have had with us to pad his stats and get a better deal somewhere in 2009.


my thoughts exactly...

#20 Skins5235

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:09 AM

this means more opportunities for mix.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:10 AM

Awesome! Now cut Thrash, trade down whenever you can, and draft 2-3 WRs, and see who develops/pans out.



:doh:

Cut Thrash and draft 2-3 WRs? Are you out of your mind?

:doh:


EDIT: I could see us MAYBE drafting 2 WRs - a higher-rounder and a 7th round gamble, but no way we draft 3.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:12 AM

Sorry to see him go - I thought he was a very solid 4th receiver for us last year down the stretch.


Interesting that he seems to have taken a vet minimum deal with St Louis over the same money with us - they must have given him hope of more playing time than he would ikely have had with us to pad his stats and get a better deal somewhere in 2009.


For some reason I don't think it came down to playing time because he could've won the #3 spot from Thrash. I think it has more to do with Saunders. Perhaps they spoke about how he would utilized there and here.

That just means they want to get Sweed AND Nelson in the draft. :applause:

if we picked up both of them I would be fine with it


I highly doubt that this will happen. You can dream though!

I really wanted Caldwell back. Oh well.

#23 2006Skins

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:12 AM

Meh,

Even though it would have been nice for him to stay.
But this really gives Anthony Mix more chances.
We have like 4 WR now? Not counting the off season add-ons.

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Trash?

how about

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Nelson
Arrington
Espy / Monk ?


We could grab Jordy Nelson in the 3rd
Grab Adrian Arrington in the 6th or 7th

Bring back Mike Espy for training camp.
Perhaps get Marcus Monk as an UDFA? (dont know much about Monk, but seems like a lot of people like him)


I wouldn't count on Espy coming back. Mix has apparently impressed so look for the skins to only draft a wr in the top 2 rounds.

#24 SkinsGuy

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:13 AM

I wanted Caldwell to stay, but I am not going to cry over his signing somewhere else.

His presence here wasn't going to make or break the Redskins this coming season.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:14 AM

We may end up drafting more than one receiver if a trade or acquisition is not made. Caldwell was cheap and reliable but not the future or a gamechanger, just pushes us more and more in the direction of a WR with that 1st pick if sweed, hardy, thomas are available.

How does this sound? :whoknows:

1st pick James Hardy
2nd pick Lawrence Jackson
3rd pick Jordy Nelson
3rd pick Chevis Jackson
5th pick OL
6th pick OL
7th pick OL

#26 bubba9497

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:17 AM

oh well... I thought he could have had more opportunities this season if he came back

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:17 AM

I would have kept him for $655k. That doesn't seem like much, and probalby not much more than the vet minimum for his experience. He became a crucial guy for us on third downs, and his size probably could have been useful as a 4th WR in the WCO.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:24 AM

We may end up drafting more than one receiver if a trade or acquisition is not made. Caldwell was cheap and reliable but not the future or a gamechanger, just pushes us more and more in the direction of a WR with that 1st pick if sweed, hardy, thomas are available.

How does this sound? :whoknows:

1st pick James Hardy
2nd pick Lawrence Jackson
3rd pick Jordy Nelson
3rd pick Chevis Jackson
5th pick OL
6th pick OL
7th pick OL


I think we are reaching a little for James Hardy at 21. I could see us trading down, getting more picks, and snatching him with a high 2nd rounder

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:25 AM

I was hoping we could keep him, as well. He could be a solid 3rd/4th WR--a stopgap player, perhaps, until we could develop a WR picked up in the draft. Hopefully, Mix can fill that role for us, and Thrash is always an option. I would have liked to see Caldwell stay around, and draft a WR in a later round as I feel Oline depth/development/youth is a pressing need right now.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:27 AM

Meh,

Even though it would have been nice for him to stay.
But this really gives Anthony Mix more chances.
We have like 4 WR now? Not counting the off season add-ons.

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Trash?

how about

Moss
Randle El
Mix
Nelson
Arrington
Espy / Monk ?


We could grab Jordy Nelson in the 3rd
Grab Adrian Arrington in the 6th or 7th

Bring back Mike Espy for training camp.
Perhaps get Marcus Monk as an UDFA? (dont know much about Monk, but seems like a lot of people like him)



Actually these are our other back-ups that we have on our roster:

Maurice Mann 6'1" 190 bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Mann
Burl Toler 6'2" bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl_Toler,_III
Billy McMullen 6'4" 215 bio http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4553
Anthony Mix 6'5" 235 Video bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Mix

We might cut one of these guys to keep thrash but that's if Zorn what's him in, thrash was a Gibbs guy so we will see what moves happen in the draft!:2cents:

(Info taken from jistardy post)

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:34 AM

UGH. I wanted Caldwell to stay. Oh well. This should be good then. We are definitely drafting a WR now.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:35 AM

damn wish we could have kept him, he's a solid receiver. He will probably do well in St Louis, they always have a very good offense.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:38 AM

Oh well,I wish we could have had him back but...I wish him luck in St Louis.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 11:59 AM

Ha, well, Randle El, and Moss never get injured. We don't need depth, dump everybody. We all know rookie Wrs almost always emerge right away as studs in the NFL.

Anyway, sarcasm aside, I really don't get the Skins approach to this position. We have 2 small injury prone Wr's (Randle El, was Ok though in his defense until last season), where will the depth be coming from?

I like the idea of drafting young WR's but they rarely emerge right away. The draft geeks also aren't overly excited about any one of the Wr prospects, deep WR draft, but no sure fire studs seems to be their sentiment.

This isn't so much my sentiment about Cladwell but ignore Hackett and Johnson who were taken very cheap.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:02 PM

Maybe we'll give Darrell Jackson a look now. He may play for the vet minimum and he's an upgrade over Caldwell. He has played for Zorn in Seattle.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:07 PM

I liked Caldwell too. Didn't complain, caught whatever was thrown to him, specially a bunch of 3rd downs. I was hoping he'd be our #3 this year.

But oh well...

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:26 PM

Ha, well, Randle El, and Moss never get injured. We don't need depth, dump everybody. We all know rookie Wrs almost always emerge right away as studs in the NFL.

Anyway, sarcasm aside, I really don't get the Skins approach to this position. We have 2 small injury prone Wr's (Randle El, was Ok though in his defense until last season),

where will the depth be coming from?



I like the idea of drafting young WR's but they rarely emerge right away. The draft geeks also aren't overly excited about any one of the Wr prospects, deep WR draft, but no sure fire studs seems to be their sentiment.

This isn't so much my sentiment about Cladwell but ignore Hackett and Johnson who were taken very cheap.


Here's our current Depth, all unproven!

Maurice Mann 6'1" 190 bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Mann
Burl Toler 6'2" bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl_Toler,_III
Billy McMullen 6'4" 215 bio http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4553
Anthony Mix 6'5" 235 Video bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Mix

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:27 PM

I'm glad he didn't re-sign with us. I've never liked the guy.

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:40 PM

Best of luck to him

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Posted 25 March 2008 - 12:41 PM

Ha, well, Randle El, and Moss never get injured. We don't need depth, dump everybody. We all know rookie Wrs almost always emerge right away as studs in the NFL.

Anyway, sarcasm aside, I really don't get the Skins approach to this position. We have 2 small injury prone Wr's (Randle El, was Ok though in his defense until last season), where will the depth be coming from?

I like the idea of drafting young WR's but they rarely emerge right away. The draft geeks also aren't overly excited about any one of the Wr prospects, deep WR draft, but no sure fire studs seems to be their sentiment.

This isn't so much my sentiment about Cladwell but ignore Hackett and Johnson who were taken very cheap.


Well, the injury issues with them have mostly been hammy issues, which is a problem at a lot of positions on this team and they are trying to address it. It certainly isn't because they get hurt when they get hit.

Depth is probably going to come from younger players. If anyone gets hurt for a signifigant length of time, I assume that the team will do what they did last year when they picked up Caldwell and McCardell. There are always going to be veterans out there like that who can come in and contribute a little bit.

Personally, I didn't think Caldwell was all that. He came in and made some decent catches, but there are a few guys out there who can do that much. To be honest, Caldwell wasn't going to see the field all that often here, and he knew it, particularly if we do bring in some young guys at receiver.

Jason