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      VICTORY!!!
       
      Redskins 23 - 17 Panthers
       
      Will the real Washington Redskins please stand up?
       
      Hello friends, JimmiJo here, joined by the Spaceman Spiff. 
       
      Seriously, which team will we get to see today. The one solid in all quarters, playing fundamentally sound ball and making us believe that just maybe, this year they could be hanging around at playoff time? Or will it be the one who decides not all receivers should be covered? You know, the one that seems to believe no national embarrassment is too great to suffer.
       
      If I am on this team on this day, I am playing like I have been punked-out on national TV (because I was) and I have something to prove. I am playing with a degree of urgency yet to be seen this year. I am playing like the season is on the line today. Because it literally is as far as I am concerned.
       
      Speak amongst yourselves...
       
      inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 25 RB Chris Thompson
      o   No. 30 S Troy Apke
      o   No. 39 CB Adonis Alexander
      o   No. 74 T Geron Christian Sr.
      o   No. 77 G Shawn Lauvao
      o   No. 80 WR Jamison Crowder
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      Ok gang, showtime. Here's to a good game with no injuries. You can follow me live on Twitter @Skinscast. 
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Half
       
      Great start, poor ending. They need to produce in the 2nd half to win.
       
      JimmiJo
       
      This team is consistently inconsistent.
       
      I’m just glad I caught them on the good week. And if there was ever a time to go for two in a row, it’s this week.
       
      I was poised to ask the players how much last week had to do with this. I didn’t have to. Most of the guys I interviewed spoke about getting the bad taste of last week out of their mouth.
       
      To a man they wanted to put it behind them. No better way than to do so with a win against a 3-1 Carolina Panthers. The win preserves Washington’s first place position in the division.
       
      If we are looking for heroes we have to start with Adrian Peterson. Coming in with multiple injuries (shoulder, knee, ankle), all he did was run for 97-yards on 17-carries with a 5.7 yard per carry average. The man is ageless, looking more like a first-year back rather than a guy near the end of his career.
       
      On the other side of the ball was Josh Norman. It was clear in speaking to him following the game that the chatter in the media was starting to get to him. This game was important enough for him that he called a defensive backs meeting this week to get everybody on the same page.
       
      Norman payed like the all-star the Redskins signed in 2016. In fact, the interception was his first since week 16 of 2016. But he wasn’t done. Norman punched out the ball to force a fumble later on a critical drive, robbing the Panthers of an opportunity to score.
       
      Given the talk about Norman and the manner in which the New Orleans Saints bludgeoned Washington last week, it was fitting the game came down to a defensive stand that resulted in Carolina giving up the ball on downs.
       
      This was a total team effort for Washington, with all areas contributing.
       
      Alex Smith went 21-of-36 for 163-yards and two touchdowns. He finished with a passer-rating of 88.1.
       
      Jordan Reed had a relatively quiet five receptions for 36-yards to lead the receivers. Vernon Davis on the other hand, made some noise bringing in 3-receptions for 48-yards to include a beautiful touchdown grab on a seam route that left him largely uncovered.
       
      Smith did such a good job of looking off the safety that by the time he turned back to fire down field, Davis was running free and clear into the end zone.
       
      Another hero on the day was Dustin Hopkins. All he did was kick a 6-yard field goal, the longest of his career. I asked the coach if he had discussed the kick with Hopkins prior to making the decision. Gruden told me it was special teams coach Ben Kotwica who proclaimed Hopkins ready.
       
      “I thought it was a 53-yarder,” said Gruden. “When I heard it was a 56-yarder I thought about calling a timeout.
      He didn’t and Hopkins made him look smart.
       
      The Redskins fare best when they score first. They must be aware of this as they started red hot, jumping out to a 17-point lead before the Panthers got off the snide.
       
      A total of 9-unanswered points later, Washington scored early in the fourth quarter to bring the lead back to 11. That lasted officially 1-drive, as the Panthers marched down with relative ease to score a touchdown and bring the game within 3.
       
      Washington then mounted another drive to register another field goal to take the lead back to 6.
       
      Then a defensive stand was needed.
       
      Carolina was able to move the back to the midfield with relative ease. Washington tightened up and it all came down to a 4th-and-5 at the Redskins 16 with 38-seconds remaining.
       
      That was as far as they would go as Cam Newton skimmed the ball off of the field for a harmless incomplete.
       
      It was a much need win. It keeps the Redskins in 1st place in the division at 3-2 with Dallas coming to town next Sunday.
       
      What’s not to like?  

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There is no superstar having a great year who will become a free agent next season. The Redskins have no #1 draft pick either. They are simply out of luck, and they are going to reap the negative results of not drafting defensive linemen over the last 14 years.

The only hope is to take that 2nd round pick and find somebody in a smaller school who will peform at a high level. Michael Strahan was a 2nd round pick.

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There is no superstar having a great year who will become a free agent next season. The Redskins have no #1 draft pick either. They are simply out of luck, and they are going to reap the negative results of not drafting defensive linemen over the last 14 years.

The only hope is to take that 2nd round pick and find somebody in a smaller school who will peform at a high level. Michael Strahan was a 2nd round pick.

You don't necessarily need superstars to be successful. It helps but it isn't required. Give me 3 Cornelius Griffin's up front and Noble would have 15+ sacks.

We are already reaping the negative benefits of not drafting defensive linemen, that's why I started the thread:laugh:

Who cares about Michael Strahan, he's someone elses find?!

Don't you think if Gibbs wanted a 1st rounder he could get one?

Stop thinking so inside the box, there are other ways to fix the team plus Gibbs so far is above average in free agency. You don't think in that fairly large list of players that SOMEONE in there will be available next season?

Someone that can potentially fix what we have wrong?

I have a feeling that John Abraham won't sign with the Jets next season. He really wants a long term deal and with the Jets slipping further out of contention he won't want to stick around for that. Plus with Herman Edwards possibly leaving he may get lost in the shuffle as that organization re-tools.

:2cents:

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What about the other guy from Indy on that list, Raheem Brock? He's 27 years old, has 4 sacks this year, and had 7 last year. They wont resign him, and seems like a decent investment to me. I watch a lot of colts games and this guy is pretty darn good player.

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for me, lets pass on the FA and rebuilt in the draft

it is much more cheaper and also we can get hungry guys specially pussh rushers

ge Mr. Tapp and the guy from LSU

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We need to draft D-Line heavily this year. No one on that list pops out as someone I'd give very much to get.

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Mathis would be huge!!! I can't imagine how much money it would take to lure him away from Indy though.

Triplett would be nice too, but Indy is trying to keep their team pretty consistent from year to year so they could make a big effort to resign him.

I also like Howard, he's a very strong pass rusher.

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We need to draft D-Line heavily this year. No one on that list pops out as someone I'd give very much to get.

Too bad we don't have a 1st rounder....

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brandon noble will be a huge part but i think salave'a is great as well...id say put all of our money on darren howard because the guy's a beast and is probably our most likely pick out of the three best (aka him abraham and mathis)

next draft a lot of d-linemen especially dends because our tackles still look pretty impressive to me....somebody said trade ramsey for berry from arizona---ive thought that same thing before and i foamed at the mouth that guy would be HUGE for us

our secondary would be just fine with a pass rush (any thoughts about trading for atlanta's rod coleman???)

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Draft- Tamba Hali from Penn State has an awesome motor!

F/A that I like- the cap question was asked initally, so I'm throwing that out for now.

if we like someone bad enough, we'll find a way....

1. Mathis - rising star

2. Berry - if he heals

3. Abraham - worried about baggage he may bring

4. Triplett - teamed with Griff....wow!

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Robert Mathis #98

Definitely Robert Mathis #98 of the Indianapolis Colts. We should go after him like no other player. He is by far the best man in the defensive free agency.

After 10 weeks of foot ball here are Mathis's stats::applause:

32 Tackles

09 Asst. Tackles

07 Forced Fumbles (That takes care of TO ratio right there)

01 Pass Defended

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Too bad we don't have a 1st rounder....

Who says you need a 1st round draft pick to select a good D-Lineman? Dexter Manley was a 5th round pick.....Charles Mann was a 3rd round pick....

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It just really helps to have a first rounder when looking for DL. Those guys go early and often in the draft. DE and DT positions are in such high demand that most teams in need there use their #1 pick on them.

And good ones aren't easy to find. There are busts in the first round all the time; especially at DE. That's why some teams are starting to go to a 3-4 defense. Because pass rushing OLB's are easier to find than pass rushing DE's.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it is hard to find those guys outside of round 1. I certainly don't want to count on a second or third rounder to come in here and change our fortunes on the DL.

Free agency might be the way to go, but I'm afraid the good one's will re-up with their current team. That's usually the way it goes these days. Mathis, Freeny, Abraham... I doubt their teams let them get away, although you never know. It would definately be a break from the norm though. Our cap issues would be a problem in free agency though.

Someone said, if we want someone bad enough, we'll get them. It doesn't work that way. We wanted Pierce and Smoot but couldn't do it. Oh we could have, but we would have been in cap trouble for sure had we... so we didn't. Which is the same thing as saying we couldn't because of our cap.

And no way does Arizona trade Berry for Ramsey. Get real.

We might get lucky, but we can't count on getting DE help for sure this coming off season.

We should've taken Merriman or Ware when we had the chance. I mean, look at how many good CB's switched teams this past off season: Smoot, Lucas, Henry, Baxter. How many good DE switched? Uh.... Not many.

Corners are easier to find than pass rushing DE's. We should've taken Merriman or ware instead of Rogers.

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Ok, the guys who stood out to me:

New York Jets: DE John Abraham

The biggest name. He has some baggage, and some would question his heart, but when he wants to produce, he does. Case in point: Its contract year. Everytime I see the Jets highlights, he's there making a huge play. And after this year, he may want out.

Cincinnati: DE Carl Powell

Powell would be a nice rotation guy. But I have a feeling he's staying in Cincy.

Indianapolis: DT Larry Tripplett

Speed rusher. The only concern is can he stop the run. He's about Griffin's size and plays like him. Would definitely help the pass rush.

Indianapolis: DE Robert Mathis (RFA)

Undersized. And I think he gets a lot of his sacks off of Freeny on the other side. I only want him if he's cheap. The Colts were considering moving him to linebacker in the offseason.

Kansas City: DE Carlos Hall

I remember his rookie season. Seems like then he hasn't done much since. Still, he showed flash once . . .

New Orleans: DE Darren Howard

Love this guy. Seems like he can do it all. Don't know much about his personal life, but he can't enjoy playing in The Big Easy. And Will Smith is waiting in the wings

Tampa Bay: DT Chris Hovan

Has shown flashes, but I've only seen him a couple times. Might be worth a shot if he's cheap.

For some reason I thought that Carolina's Rucker was available. That would be a nice pickup.

I don't know about the draft. Don't get to watch much college football.

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And good ones aren't easy to find. There are busts in the first round all the time; especially at DE. That's why some teams are starting to go to a 3-4 defense. Because pass rushing OLB's are easier to find than pass rushing DE's.

Yup. And the Skins have shown the 3-4 this year. I really think they should use it more. With Arrington and Washington blitzing :D

Free agency might be the way to go, but I'm afraid the good one's will re-up with their current team. That's usually the way it goes these days. Mathis, Freeny, Abraham... I doubt their teams let them get away, although you never know. It would definately be a break from the norm though. Our cap issues would be a problem in free agency though.

Yup. Don't forget Peppers.

Someone said, if we want someone bad enough, we'll get them. It doesn't work that way. We wanted Pierce and Smoot but couldn't do it. Oh we could have, but we would have been in cap trouble for sure had we... so we didn't. Which is the same thing as saying we couldn't because of our cap.

Ugh, this ticks me off so much. I wish we had kept one of those guys. Smoot most of all. I kinda miss his mouth actually :D

And no way does Arizona trade Berry for Ramsey. Get real.

We might get lucky, but we can't count on getting DE help for sure this coming off season.

I can hope. Maybe throw in a 3rd rounder. Shoot, maybe we should contact them right now. And according to your logic, we have even less of a chance of getting a DE in the draft.

We should've taken Merriman or Ware when we had the chance. I mean, look at how many good CB's switched teams this past off season: Smoot, Lucas, Henry, Baxter. How many good DE switched? Uh.... Not many.

Corners are easier to find than pass rushing DE's. We should've taken Merriman or ware instead of Rogers.

Thank you for someone who finally agrees with me. I was screaming at the radio. I wanted either Merriman or Big Mike Williams (still think we should have taken BMW). Merriman would have been fine at DE. And he would have been in camp on time. And he was a local guy. :mad:

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Don't sleep on Kampman. He doesnt get any pub but the guy has a crazy motor -- he is relatively young too. Did uyou see him in Vicks face ALL DAY last week?

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I dont think so...he'll end up in the second. First to mid second round pick. I would like Mario Williams a ton though. He is a stud!

hopefully we won't be picking in the mid second round, if you know what I mean... ;)

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Instead of Clements, I would go with Deshea Townsend from Pittsburgh. He plays in an attacking system, is cheap, and underrated. He would provide quality depth (injuries there have been a problem this season), and could fight for the starting spot next year with Rogers. If Townsend would be open to possibly moving to Nickel in the near future, I would sign him quick.

Not a fan of Townsend. Not a fan of Marcellus Wiley either. Not at any price.

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Free agency- get a pass rusher and a #2 wr ( who knows maybe Taylor shows something this weekend- one can hope anyway)

Draft- 2nd round, DT

later rounds- dline and oline depth

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Robert Mathis and John Abraham, in FA. Daryl Tapp in the draft.

For our CB problem i think we should try and pry Nate Clements away from buffalo.

Yeah and where are we goin to get all the money for this

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The Colts will undoubtedly make Mathis an offer that would require you give up a 1st rounder (+ a 3rd maybe as well). You don't have a 1st rounder.

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Why pick up a cb? springs will 32 or 33 next year. and #27 has been struggling and he's in his 30"s as well. that leaves carlos rogers as the only long term cb.if we could afford clements ,him and springs would dominate freeing us to blitz plus it would give rogers one or two more years to progress. i think good de and dt can be had cheaply.i do think we need to look at mlb and lb depth.we will probably need a back up qb. another wr and andother guard to take dockery's place preferably hutchison.can seattle resign him having just signed hassleback and walter jone to career contracts and needing to sign alexander this year.it would be tough.i'm telling you dockery is the weak link.

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I love to get Abraham and I think he will want to leave the Jets. In addition if we do get him or someone or his quality the the nice thing is Denials can also play DT which gives us depth on the OL....something we are lacking right now.

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