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  1. Of course not. It's been demonstrated pretty well over the course of history that a dominant D-line is more impactful than a good secondary. You can't suck at either, but stopping the run, and negatively affecting a QBs ability to throw in rhythm from the pocket, are the surest ways to have a good defense. Is Allen dominant? He graded out very well when he played and he was collapsing the pocket regularly which doesn't show up on the stat sheet. Dominant is a stretch, but he could get there soon. No one says slot corner isn't important. Maybe Fuller transition to the outside, maybe he doesn't. Every position is important in its own way, and slot corner is more valuable than ever in today's NFL. But it's still down the list. I'd say it's no better than 8th, behind QB, DE, LT, RB, DT, outside corner, #1 WR. Wide range of opinions here I'm sure, but follow the money. There isn't a single slot CB in the top 150 players in the NFL by salary. Cornerback is the 6th highest paid position in general, and most of that money goes to outside corners. If they were all that important, they'd get paid better. Fabian Moreau will have a huge role to play. He's better suited to the outside tho, and with the likely loss of Breeland they'll have to draft another (probably a fairly high) pick to man the slot. It's not ideal to be sure, especially with that pick gone. This is where the trade really hurts. Instead of potentially finding an Alvin Kamara or Kareem Hunt at RB (both 3rd rounders), they'll likely use the 2nd on Fuller's replacement and twiddle their thumbs during the 3rd.
  2. These are the two points I'll address, as they are directly related to each other 1) The FO, we can all agree, put themselves in a bad position. They methodically undermined every bit of their leverage with the way they handled Kirk Cousins. It's as if they never played the tape through, never asked all the "what if" questions in 2015, such as: What if Kirk plays really well and his value goes up, and we have to pay through the nose to keep him? What if we franchise Kirk and he plays well again, and he's kinda put off that we wouldn't sign him to a good deal when he was willing to take it? What if Kirk decides that it's better to take the guaranteed money from a franchise deal than any contract we would realistically offer? It's as if they never expected Cousins to play well. Maybe they thought by playing him, they'd give him the rope and he'd hang himself. Their attitude seems to have been, We're talking about a 4th rounder here. He should jump at the chance to sign any halfway decent long-term contract. He should be happy to get what we give him. The FO obviously miscalculated this situation badly on all fronts (although time will tell if Cousins will ever be a wartime consigliere). Now the FO knows they screwed up but can't admit it publicly. They will look like fools – or even more foolish than they already do – if they pay him $30M a year in 2018 when they could have had him for $18M a year after the 2015 season. So they almost HAVE to take the position of "Kirk's not worth the money" and move on. Yes, they did this to themselves. Nevertheless, some kind of move for a legit QB did have to happen. It's kind of like they're saying, Well, all our dumb decisions over the past 3 years make this a good one. Weirdly, that's sort of true. Which bring us to... 2) If I'm the GM, I make the deal now because someone else was going to. I've decided that Alex Smith is the guy, so I go get him. Here are the other options, besides signing Kirk: VETS: Sam Bradford Case Keenum Teddy Bridgewater AJ McCarron Josh McCown Ryan Fitzpatrick Geno Smith Maybe Tyrod Taylor + a bunch of people who are not even going to be in the league next year DRAFT: Josh Rosen Josh Allen Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield Lamar Jackson There's no guarantee that any of the college kids would be available at #13 (remember the run on QBs in last year's draft), and none of them are 'can't miss' prospects anyway. Bradford has all the tools but he's going to join Jordan Reed in the injury-prone hall of fame. Keenum I'm not sold on, and his success seems to be tied a lot to Pat Schumer. Bridgewater is not that good to begin with and he's coming off a Theismann-esque injury. AJ McCarron is an RFA and can't beat out Andy Dalton. The others are not even worth mentioning. Basically it comes down to one simple truth: the FO screwed up. The price for that screw up was Kendall Fuller.
  3. Skinny, thanks for the thoughtful reply. You made a good case. I agreed with some of what you said but here's why I disagree with the assessment in as a whole. All of a sudden people are acting like the Redskins are giving up on the best defensive back prospect in the league and I just don't see it. I like him, and was upset, just not "the doctors tell me they'll have to remove my entire colon" type of upset when I heard he was part of this trade. Yes, I know how he was graded by both the team and Pro Football Focus. I've read the same articles ad nauseam. There's no doubt in my mind that Fuller is a very good player. But with him, the Redskins still had a bad defense. They couldn't make a stop all year when they really had to. Injuries across the front 7 (and holy **** were there injuries) played a huge part in that. Fuller made a lot of nice plays throughout the year, so I'll give credit where credit is due. But I don't understand why so many people are losing their minds over his departure. Swearinger I could understand, because he played alongside Fuller, went into battle with him. The fans, on the other hand, are acting like Kendall Fuller was the best thing to happen to the Redskins defense since they traded for Wilbur Marshall. It's as if the FO jettisoned the lynchpin that held a world class defense together – for a song. The truth is, the past transgressions of the front office are causing a lot of bias, clouding people's judgement. It was a good trade, a necessary trade, for reasonable terms. It comes down to this: You either trade Fuller, or someone else gets Smith. Then you're left holding your junk in your hand when the music stops. Colt McCoy is your quarterback. The defense will not fall off the face of the earth because Kendall Fuller is gone.
  4. In light of the news that the Broncos offered a 2nd rounder and Aqib Talib for Alex Smith makes me wonder of this trade was really all that bad. Only reason Andy Reid didn't take that trade was because (unlike the McNabb deal) he didn't want to see Smith twice a year in the AFC West. Conclusion: both John Elway and Reid really respect Alex Smith – a lot. The Skins will get an extra 3rd rounder in 2019 as a compensatory pick, balancing out that draft pick loss. So in essence, the Redskins traded Kendall Fuller for Alex Smith. I'm a Kirk Cousins supporter, but even so, I'm having a difficult time seeing how they 'lost' in this trade. They certainly didn't get fleeced like Mike Jones claims. Perhaps there's a tendency for fans and beat writers alike to throw our hands up in disgust at every move this FO makes, because their track record is admittedly not great. But I think this trade is a case where – after screwing up by not signing Kirk after 2015 – they made a pretty good deal. _______________ PS - The Browns offered multiple picks for Alex. PPS - What if the Skins work out some kind of trade-and-sign deal with the Broncos (or whomever)? Doesn't this trade start to look downright rosy then?
  5. Apparently Pro Football Focus agrees with you: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2018/01/31/some-people-are-going-crazy-over-the-redskins-losing-kendall-fuller-heres-why/?utm_term=.462295d374e4
  6. Jay Gruden: Buy, Sell Or HOLD: 2017 edition

    If you think that Kirk is the problem, and that he checks down too much, then you shouldn't be posting on a football message board. You should be reading and learning.
  7. Jay Gruden: Buy, Sell Or HOLD: 2017 edition

    This is a sad, sad day. The Cowboys are missing their best player on offense, their best player on defense, a playoff birth is potentially on the line. And yet, Dallas is slapping around the Skins like so many annoying gnats. This is the lowest moment of Jay Gruden's coaching career. I still say he deserves a chance to coach a team that hasn't had 5,834,905,83210 injuries. And he will get that chance next year. I think. I'm really buying into the theory that Gruden doesn't know how to prepare a team very well. He does a lot of things well, but preparing them for big games isn't one of them. There's not a lot of evidence to support the notion that he has that part of his job down to even a halfway decent extent.
  8. Game Day Thread Skins at Saints

    Not impressive, Snake.
  9. Game Day Thread Skins at Saints

    Apparently the code feature doesn't work?
  10. Game Day Thread Skins at Saints

    I've felt for some time, long before this game, that the NFL is fixed. Specifically, I have seen so many illegal contact-type/hands to the face on a D-Back at the end of games like this, when a team absolutely needed a bail-out penalty, that I've lost count. They ALWAYS seem to happen at crunch time, and when you see the replay, it's almost always laughably ticky-tack (the type of thing that happens on every play and they just so happened to call it at the most crucial moment), or it's totally non-existent. I've said a dozen times watching non-Skins games, "Man, if I were a fan of [WHATEVER TEAM], I'd be so pissed. That call was BS." Now, the Redskins could have done several things to seal this game. Mainly calling a play-action pass on that 3rd & 1 play, that would have worked so easily. They had a total meltdown. That's not the ref's fault. But the defense made the one play they needed to make, against a HOF QB, in crunch time. And the old standby phantom penalty on a D-Back was there to make things go the, ah preferred way. I don't trust this league. I really don't.
  11. Common Kirk....I just don't know....

    32 TDs and 8 INTs.
  12. Common Kirk....I just don't know....

    Kirk Cousins is probably the least of the Redskins' problems. I think the thing that we all saw tonight that is really depressing is that the Eagles have a far, far superior quarterback who will haunt Washington for the next 15 years.
  13. Eagles Redskins Post Game Assessments

    I am tired of screaming that at television sets.
  14. Jay Gruden: Buy, Sell Or HOLD: 2017 edition

    Take a moment and think back to 2013.... Okay. Remember what happened that year? The Redskins finished the season with 8 straight losses. The starting quarterback was throwing picks at a rate of one per game, basically. Then the backup came in late to mop up the season and threw 7 INTs in 3 games. The coach and OC were both fired. Do you remember how you felt after the 2013 regular season came to a close? I bet you do. It went something like this: (Spurrier + Zorn + meddling owner + narcissistic QB)2 ÷ 2 Shanahans = I'M SENDING BRUCE ALLEN MY FAN CARD At that very moment, if I told you that the Redskins would hire a coach who, after one predictably bad season, would: right the ship and coach the team to 2 consecutive winning seasons, take that same shaky backup QB and coach him up to achieve over 9,000 passing yards and 63 total TDs over those 2 winning seasons lead the Redskins to a 3-2 start the season after that ...would you have taken that coach? Of course you would have. Compared with the Browns-esque nature of the Redskins in December 2013, that would've seemed like the football equivalent of skinny dipping with frisky underwear models in a pool of champagne. I'm buying Jay Gruden for the foreseeable future, warts and all.