Skinsinparadise

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  1. I was a big Zach Brown guy on the FA thread last year before we signed him. Still, I don't see him as a 10 million guy. He's a stud against the run and decent A gap blitzer. But he's a lost puppy often in the passing game. I'd say 7 million a year or so, maybe 8.
  2. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    Smoot has been a Kirk hater on and off for years. I yawned when I saw that. He used to have a radio segment on the weekend and if you listened to him you'd think the Redskins era when he was here was the Superbowl run versus what they were in reality which is a mostly below average team. If we want to run with ex-Redskins from that era. Cooley and Santana Moss are big time sign Kirk people. Portis not as hardcore but in that camp, too.
  3. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    I think it would end up lower than that. But I'll play with your number. Still plenty of room. Other teams figure this stuff out. Granted Bruce-Dan and the operation over here aren't the Saints -- Bruce isn't Jeff Ireland. So yeah I grant you the Saints are likely better at both playing the draft and the cap than the Redskins. But I'd hope they can show some competence even if they aren't anything special. But back to the draft. This isn't a FA thread. Do you think they can improve the defense and running game -- in particular via the first and 2nd round? Or do you think they have to scratch the whole thing and start from scratch?
  4. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    You thought the Saints had a better cap situation. But they actually had a significantly worse situation. I don't see the litany of critical-expensive resigns. Heck they can even lose Foster and I wouldn't lose sleep with a Vigil and Z. Brown combination. I was surprised to hear two different guys covering the team say they might let both Lauvao and Long go. I don't see who these expensive FAs we got to bring back that will cripple the cap. The Saints got their first rounder, 2nd rounder, 3rd rounder right. Redskins could do it, too. Aside from Zach, we don't have expensive FAs in play. IMO getting the draft right will mean a lot more IMO than whether we bring Niles Paul, Will Compton, Brain Quick, Chris Carter, etc back.
  5. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Then I think you will be disappointed judging by what some of the beat reporters say they are hearing. Looks like Breeland, Lauvao and probably even Long are gone. Zach Brown and Mason Foster probably back. Either Trent M. or Galette. Ryan Grant. Most of the other guys are cheap role players. Some back, some not but they aren't cap breakers. The Saints point you made instead actually set up my point pretty well. The cap goes up every year -- if you know what you are doing (and again I understand the hesitation about the people running the front office if that's what's driving this point) you can make it work. Just about the rest of the NFL can figure it out. I think the Redskins FO could figure it out, too. Bringing this back to the draft, if they keep Kirk I don't think they need FA to take the next leap aside from a FA WR. The draft could do it.
  6. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Lattimore, Kamara, M. Williams weren't exactly state secrets. Only one of them was a first rounder. I took Kamara myself in the board's mock draft. I know Bruce isn't considered the sharpest tool in the box as for personnel. But I think he can figure out to draft a run stuffing nose tackle like Vea, back like Michel or Jones or whatever. As for the cap space, just found an article from ironically just about the same point of 2017 than we are in now. Then the Saints had 20 million in cap space. https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2017/1/17/14302996/saints-news-1-17-17-with-20-million-in-cap-space-saints-seek-pass-rushers As for the 19 FAs. What do we have like 4 who are worth bringing back?
  7. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    I recall reading articles about Jay not being a Kaepernick guy in the draft because of the type of offense he ran in college and thought Dalton would adjust better to his WCO system. JP Finlay said from what he heard the FO isn't high on Mayfield and L. Jackson's for Jay's offense. Tebow was saying you got to design an offense for Mayfield and he isn't suited to running a traditional NFL offense. I'd guess based on these points that Mayfield isn't Jay's kind of QB and that's not their target. Who knows.
  8. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    You of all people should know I've given plenty of my own concrete reasons for Kirk. I was just bringing in that point in the context of a game where they were going toe to toe with one of the best teams this year in the NFL but the defense collapsed. It's not the only example of that. Got no idea what this point means. But anyway don't want to turn this into the Kirk thread. I already know what you think about him. My point is the Saints got a stud corner, running back, and safety in one draft and turned their fortunes around. This draft could be a similar one for us. It's set up for it.
  9. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    In good spirits, I disagree with most of this. But running with this point for argument sake if you agree that you can't win without a good QB -- what makes you think the team that has struck out on that front numerous times for almost 30 years now will get it right this time quickly. The last time they got it right in the draft before Kirk was maybe Stan Humphries in 1988. They have also tired the drill of build up the rest of the roster drill and wait on the QB over and over again. Going back to that well is Groundhog Day. For example, I was at the New Orleans game. Got Saints fans sitting next to me raving about Kirk. Unfortunately Kirk couldn't stop Drew Brees' offense -- he didn't play defense that day. But if we had another D lineman and perhaps middle linebacker - the outcome might have been different. The defense finished 27th in points allowed. How many other teams made the playoffs with bottom 10 defenses in points allowed? A big fat zero. That's why to me this draft could be our version of the Saints last draft -- upgrade the defense, upgrade the running game and it changes the whole outlook of a team. It wasn't a FA spending spree that turned the Saints around but a good draft. This draft is a good set up IMO to help make a turnaround. Really good potential run stuffers in the first and running backs in the 2nd. If we go with Colt or a rookie, this baby is likely back on a reset and we start hearing again about lets be patient for the next 3-5 year rebuild.
  10. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    It's pretty simple. Franchise QBs have MUCH to do with the offensives output. It's on their shoulders mostly but not completely. Franchise QBs have NOTHING to do with the defensive's output. Zero. Only 4 defenses gave up more points than the Redskins. How many teams from the top 10 worst defenses in points allowed made the playoffs? Zero. 10 of the top 12 defenses on points allowed -- made the playoffs. And yes most of the teams that made the playoffs had really good QBs. The outlier being Jax. So dumping the baby with the bathwater and creating what would likely be a below average offense is unlikely to be counter balanced with a better defense than we got now.
  11. Random "Thot" Thread (Stadium Edition)

    Roseman gets Ajayi and Jernigan for a ham sandwich. Trades Bradford for a kings ransom. Swindles the Browns out of a franchise QB. Locks in his own guys for years to come. And we got potentially losing Kirk for at best a ham sandwich and would be left with the Browns discarded left overs at QB, Colt. A team that's below average just about everywhere. But heck Bruce will be watching more film this off season, so good things to come.
  12. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    If JP Finlay was right a week ago or so, you will be disappointed then because he said the FO as for Jay's offense don't care for either guy. According to him, they like Allen and Rudolph. Hopefully it ends up none of the above.
  13. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    The idea of not having a QB but making up for it by going nuts in FA. It's the vintage approach under Dan -- 20th time the charm? Usually the outcome to this isn't 9-7 but 5-11. My thing is we build a defense in the draft and then we are likely not stuck at 8-8-9-7 land. That's how the Saints dislodged themselves from mediocrity. They didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater but fixed their weaknesses. Reading Jay Gruden's comments about the Vikings defense and how L. Joseph is an immovable object and hence its tough to run against that team -- made be salivate more for Vea. A dominant nose tackle IMO is a game changer for this defense. http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35393/jay-gruden-on-how-to-attack-the-vikings-and-eagles-defenses What makes them good: “They’re balanced in what they can stop. They’re obviously very good against the run, and it starts inside with people like [lineman] Linval Joseph. He’s a hard load to move, and it was hard for us to get to the second level because he hogs two guys for a long period of time. He can make plays down the line as well...You can try to run the ball against them, but if you try to run inside, Joseph is a monster, and Griffin, if he’s on a tight end, is hard to deal with. If you run outside zone, they get Smith and Sendejo in the run fit, so how do you account for them?
  14. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    I lean thumbs down on Mayfield, too. I hate really any Plan B to Kirk. If I had to pick a guy from this draft, it would be Darnold but he's likely going #2 at worse. I commented on this on the draft thread. IMO the Mayfield people better hope for a ho hum Senior Bowl week because if he has a good one, he then likely becomes a top 10 pick. Then all of a sudden we'd have to do the sell the farm drill to trade up for a QB drill. It's likely not going to require as much capital as the RG3 trade. But it could be this years 1st, 2nd -- next years first or 2nd -- judging by some of the trades that happened last year. The problem with that is getting the QB wrong is compounded with not being able to build your roster compared to key competitors. So it makes the typical high stakes game for drafting a guy -- much higher stakes.
  15. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Agree. And my thought to the Mayfield people is they better hope he has a ho hum Senior Bowl week because him playing well likely puts him out of reach. I wonder if Dan gets the itch to trade up. If you recall the RG3 hype built during the 2012 off season. His interviews. The combine. Pro Day, etc. It became a hype machine. Mayfield seems to be similar in that regard. He just seems so tailor made to what Dan loves at the QB position more than anything: hype. So as the hype bandwagon inevitably rises as the draft approaches, does Dan fall too hard for Mayfield to resist trading up. If its hype that drives them -- a Colt McCoy- Mason Rudolph pairing won't do it.
  16. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    At least we set the blueprint for something relating to QB https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2018/01/18/the-redskins-have-many-needs-and-the-kirk-cousins-contract-drama-will-shape-them-all/?utm_term=.a8f718e5d8b8 ...As for the question of what the Redskins should have done regarding Cousins, Corry notes, “it’s a little too late” for that. “What they did is they created the blueprint for how not to handle a good quarterback,” said Corry, citing the modest contract offers when the marketplace dictated more. “They set the wrong tone generally the whole way around. To me, if you’re serious about keeping the guy, you’ve got to put your best foot forward to show you’re trying to mend fences. If you’re not doing that, you’re not creating any path to getting a long-term deal done.” ...The only prudent option for bringing Cousins back in 2018 is negotiating a long-term contract. That appears a long shot. Redskins Presidents Bruce Allen’s modest proposals to date have been unpersuasive, and his public blaming of Cousins in July for the failure to reach a deal last summer did little toward building a foundation of trust. Cousins, for his part, has made clear he wants to test the free agent market, noting at a January fan forum hosted by 106.7 The Fan’s Grant Paulsen and Danny Rouhier, that he has never had the chance to choose his NFL employer. But should the two sides buck expectations and reach a mutually agreeable long-term deal, in which the salary-ramification of Cousins’s contract can be spread over the life of a four- or five-year contract, the team can devote what remains under the salary cap to other pressing needs. ...Coach Jay Gruden has great confidence in backup Colt McCoy, who led the Redskins to an overtime victory at Dallas in 2014 – as do Redskins players. That’s largely why McCoy is signed through 2018 and why Gruden felt comfortable with just two quarterbacks on his roster last season rather than three. The downside of that decision, however, is that the team has no young quarterback in its pipeline. If Cousins departs, the Redskins will be forced to do two things: Draft a young prospect, ideally with their first-round pick; and sign a veteran free agent to challenge for the starting job while the rookie learns Gruden’s system. In his first mock draft of the offseason, ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. on Thursday predicted the Redskins will take Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield 13th overall. Smoot likes Louisville’s Lamar Jackson. But Mayfield would suit owner Daniel Snyder’s style, bringing Heisman Trophy buzz and credentials (for the second time in six years) to energize a dispirited fan base.
  17. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Keim weighing in some http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35408/should-kirk-cousins-leave-mel-kiper-jr-projects-baker-mayfield-to-redskins There are multiple scenarios that could play out for Washington and affect what it does at quarterback. But if Cousins goes and the Redskins go with Colt McCoy, they’ll draft a quarterback in the early rounds. Even if they believe in McCoy -- and coach Jay Gruden does -- he hasn’t proven himself over 16 games. The Redskins can’t assume anything about his performance and plan for now and the future. Plus, they need a young passer to develop. ...Keep in mind the last two times the Redskins have swung big on quarterbacks -- Donovan McNabb and Robert Griffin III -- the move was only met with lukewarm support by the head coach. Some of that might be revisionist history by other people, but not all. And in Griffin’s case, the hesitancy wasn’t about him as much as it was about how much they had to surrender. Still, the point was that the organization made a move not all said they strongly supported. Mayfield makes some sense from the standpoint that he might still be around at 13 -- or the Redskins wouldn’t have to trade up high to land him. But one thing that should help is that they have a head coach who was a former quarterback and a senior vice president of player personnel in Doug Williams who, of course, was one as well. That should be a benefit, provided everyone listens to what they have to say. They’ll also have a chance to scout Mayfield up close at the Senior Bowl; possible first-round quarterbacks don’t always attend the event in Alabama. So why Mayfield? In a lot of ways he’s like McCoy -- though in terms of his draft stock, the NFL would consider Mayfield obviously a better version. And there were zero character concerns about McCoy coming out of college, unlike with Mayfield. Mayfield can extend plays and displays moxie; teammates seemed to respond to him (teammates love McCoy). He can be accurate down the field. He made some plays in college he won’t be able to in the NFL -- throwing back to the middle of the field or throwing the ball up for grabs. But being able to go off-schedule would appeal to Gruden. Mayfield’s size (around 6-foot) might matter to the Redskins and they’d have to be sold on the character, too. Then they must love his game. At quarterback, you need the first-in, last-out type. Both Cousins and McCoy are that way. This story shows how hard McCoy has workedjust to stay sharp as a backup. Mayfield also would generate buzz for a franchise that could use some if Cousins leaves. Is that a reason to draft him? No. And it’s not as if the fan base is craving Mayfield; he’s a prospect some love and others don’t. But that buzz would be an offshoot of adding him. Young quarterbacks always provide a modicum of hope, too. Nobody provided more than Griffin, a Heisman winner as well. Ironically, Cousins is the only quarterback Washington has drafted since 1989 who has panned out.
  18. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    Keim http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35408/should-kirk-cousins-leave-mel-kiper-jr-projects-baker-mayfield-to-redskins There are multiple scenarios that could play out for Washington and affect what it does at quarterback. But if Cousins goes and the Redskins go with Colt McCoy, they’ll draft a quarterback in the early rounds. Even if they believe in McCoy -- and coach Jay Gruden does -- he hasn’t proven himself over 16 games. The Redskins can’t assume anything about his performance and plan for now and the future. Plus, they need a young passer to develop. And a lot of this depends on if the Redskins sign someone else in free agency -- Sam Bradford? Teddy Bridgewater? Either one of those two Minnesota Vikingspassers would have to be in play if the team decides to re-sign Case Keenum. Even then, with McCoy in the last year of a contract, they have to draft a quarterback at some point. Heck, if they keep Cousins on another one-year deal they’d be wise to draft one. Keep in mind the last two times the Redskins have swung big on quarterbacks -- Donovan McNabb and Robert Griffin III -- the move was only met with lukewarm support by the head coach. Some of that might be revisionist history by other people, but not all. And in Griffin’s case, the hesitancy wasn’t about him as much as it was about how much they had to surrender. Still, the point was that the organization made a move not all said they strongly supported. Mayfield makes some sense from the standpoint that he might still be around at 13 -- or the Redskins wouldn’t have to trade up high to land him. But one thing that should help is that they have a head coach who was a former quarterback and a senior vice president of player personnel in Doug Williams who, of course, was one as well. That should be a benefit, provided everyone listens to what they have to say. They’ll also have a chance to scout Mayfield up close at the Senior Bowl; possible first-round quarterbacks don’t always attend the event in Alabama. ...Ironically, Cousins is the only quarterback Washington has drafted since 1989 who has panned out.
  19. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    Take from Scot about what Kirk wants. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/01/19/scot-mccloughan-on-redskins-quarterback-kirk-cousins-i-dont-see-special/?utm_term=.a4c430d90ca6 “I can promise you this,” McCloughan said. “He has done his homework, probably too much, about each roster, who his receivers are, who his backs are, who his o-linemen are, who the coach is. Not just the head coach, but the coordinator, position coach, the system they run. I promise you he has notebook after notebook for each team. He is very, very intellectual about knowing what’s best for him. He understands he’s getting older, he’s been in the league a little bit. He wants to win. I know that. Personally, knowing him, it’s not about the money. It’s about the right fit, where he knows he has stability, he has good coaches, he has good players and he has a chance to be successful. I don’t blame him. He’s put himself in that situation with what he’s done the last three years.”
  20. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    JP Finlay just doubled down on something he said about a week ago. That is, from the people he has spoken to at Redskins Park, "they like Mason Rudolph a lot."
  21. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    Cooley I think spelled out well today. He said the same thing I've said previously. You let Kirk go and he thrives elsewhere and Plan B here doesn't work out -- then wow, that's just a disaster look for this franchise. Cooley thinks if they play this out, it likely goes down that way. I see it the same way. Dan for his faults has only really gotten one serious fan revolt and that was in 2009. If this goes down and lets say we watch Denver start off 6-0 and Kirk is the toast of the town while Colt or whomever gets off to a stumbling start -- it will lead IMO to one of the biggest PR nightmares a sports franchise has experienced or worse than that just plain apathy. It's for this reason and this reason only why I think they still might get a deal done (though I am more pessimistic than optimistic) -- I think even they might understand the consequence of getting this wrong. Sadly, I don't think Dan has much capital left with most of the fan base so the timing for him couldn't be worse to experience the motherlode of all of his dumb mistakes.
  22. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    I agree if you are saying let Kirk go -- Plan B has to be somewhat concrete or have trust in the FO. To me its either you trust Doug-Bruce to do something brilliant -- hey I know it looks unconventional to let your franchise QB go but I suspect Doug-Bruce have some magic in them, watch what the do next. Or, you got your own thoughts about what you are excited about. Debating the Kirk contract in a vacuum if the conclusion is to let him go -- make zero sense to me unless again you believe big in Bruce or there are some obvious Plan B things that get you excited. So lets say if it were me and I pretended I wanted Kirk gone. It would be something like look. We got Colt for 3 million for one more year. We take Rudolph at #13. And with the extra cash in FA, we sign Landry and Robinson and watch the team fly...
  23. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    I see this from time to time from different people on the thread. And I keep answering it the same way. Cite one post or one person saying to keep him at all costs -- let alone its a summary of a belief of people on this thread. I don't mean to single you on this but as far as I can tell its a false premise/debate. No one is debating anyone as far as I can tell on the premise of sign Kirk at all costs. Unless, I missed a post where someone said it? I've been perusing this thread for a long time, I just don't recall anyone saying anything like that. As far as I can tell among the sign Kirk people here. You got people from all three camps. A. You got some who think he's good. B Some who think as you say he's "very good" C. Some who think he's elite or close. But under each condition for these people, the conclusion is to sign him. I don't think the idea is you only sign him to a market deal if he's elite. That's not how the market works. So Scot saying Kirk is very good but implying he's not Aaron Rodgers and also laying on thick why he thinks Kirk is very good -- doesn't IMO weaken the argument of signing Kirk. The whole thing about the discussion is this really IMO. Are they better with him gone and replaced with Colt (with much extra cap space), Bradford (with a little extra cap space), etc or name that guy who drops to #13 in the draft. Edit: I grant there are people who are in those 3 categories who are saying here don't sign him. I am just saying that many here don't buy into the premise that you sign Kirk to a LTD at a market rate only if he's elite. I'd put myself somewhere between B and C -- probably closer to C. But even if I thought he was just good -- I'd sign him. The difference between a good QB and a JAG is night and day. We've lived that experiment for two decades plus, I know how it looks and feels.
  24. Will Cousins Play For The Skins In 2018

    https://scout.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Article/Former-Redskins-GM-Scot-McCloughan-Doesnt-See-Kirk-Cousins-As-Special-113893682 “He’s talented,” McCloughan said. “Talent is good at quarterback in the NFL. He’s won games. I know his record overall isn’t over .500. I know he hasn’t won a playoff game. But he’s competitive. He works his tail off. He’s so methodical. Every day he has planned out. He’s always in the building, he’s always watching tape, he’s always talking to coaches, he [was] talking to me. From the standpoint of the tangibles, they’re excellent. You just need to have some talent around him because you don’t want him to be throwing the ball 35-40 times to win the game. You want to have a running game, and have a good defense, good teams. And then let him do what he does.” Two areas of Cousins’ game that don’t get talked about enough are his mobility and an ability to overcome adversity. McCloughan landed on both those points on Thursday. “The thing about him that’s unique, and you don’t see it too often, he’s a pretty good athlete with his legs,” McCloughan said. “He can make plays moving around the pocket and running for first downs. He’s got a strong enough arm, there’s no doubt about it. He’s been through adversity. He got drafted the same year that Robert Griffin got drafted. And Robert was the guy and of course he deserved it. He was Offensive Rookie of the Year and Kirk just had to sit back and just wait and wait and wait. “He wants to play. He’s highly, highly competitive. He comes across as a real nice guy, like Alex Smith did in interviews — and they are. But they’re both highly competitive and they want to win. But they want that stability too. They want to know they’re in some spot where it’s not just a one-year deal, one-year deal, one-year deal. He wants a long-term deal.” It should be noted that it is somewhat bizarre that McCloughan would so vociferously complement Cousins, after saying that the signal-caller isn't special. Most of the verbiage the former GM used to complement Cousins paints the picture of a 'special' QB. However, I will concur with Cousins’ former GM that he’s not quite special, in the same sense that the tier-one QBs are, like Rodgers, Brady, and Wilson. But I will allow that it’s highly possible that Cousins has those traits in potential. It's entirely possible he just needs to find the right home. Jay: “I’ve been working with him for a long time now and we’ve put a lot of time and a lot of work together with one another trying to get him better, and he’s made me better. So that’s worked out very well. Of course he knows that we want him back...Kirk doesn’t owe anybody [anything] … Kirk’s put so much into making himself a great player that he’s made himself who he is. https://sportsnaut.com/2017/12/jay-gruden-kirk-cousins-free-agency-hopefully-hell-be-with-us/ “Whatever happens, happens with him and his agent and our organization,” Gruden said. “He has got two good years under his belt in our system, and I think it’s gonna be very good for him. You’re gonna see major growth from him again.” Gruden also complimented the quarterback’s potential, saying “he’s got a huge upside that he hasn’t even tapped into yet.”
  25. 2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

    Drafting a QB IMO just upsets the whole apple cart. What a wasted opportunity in particular to find a game changer at a key spot. Whether its Vea or Payne to stuf the run. R. Smith if he falls. I am back and forth on Ridley but some see him as a game changing receiver, etc. It would make FA a much bigger deal. Nose tackle -- Poe or Logan? Receiver -- one of the Jax guys. I like Jordan Matthews even though he's coming off of an injury-off year. But I think it makes 2018 a ho hum season. One upside is might make the draft thread fascinating as early as October. If Kirk is gone. I am still not a Mayfield guy. I am not saying I have a read on him one way or another but I lean no. Having said that, considering the history of QBs in the draft (we all know they tend to rise not fall -- who would think for example Christian Ponder among others would end up drafted that high). the odds are I think if they fall for Mayfield, they got to trade up and give up multiple picks to do it. Only way I don't see it going down that way is if Mayfield really is "meh" during Senior Bowl week and or measures at 6 foot or under. But yeah Mayfield drafted after someone like Ponder did? Tough for me to see that. I am not saying that because I believe in Mayfield. But its because if you read the buzz on Mayfield he's a love-hate prospect. You'd figure someone is going to love the dude and not let him fall that far.