Whether the people who were under Bruce with the Bucs who made the personnel decisions or ditto the Redskins were good or not -- that's really IMO the discussion at hand since they are the ones making the recommendations and IMO its an odd discussion versus a normal one and the oddness of it is the crux of my point. When you talk for example Seattle, the question is how good is John Schneider at his job. He's not a figurehead where the point about him is how good are the people he hires and stays out of their way or not or how does he pull his favorite opinion from people in the building who know much more about football than he does. That same discussion pertains to most of the rest of the NFL's FOs. Schneider, the guy actually making the call has the rep in that building to be the smartest football guy. That's how it generally works.
It would be like my neighbor asking me, hey who do you like as an electrician. And I tell him, I don't really have one directly but I hire this guy who comes to my house, we talk and have coffee and he brings another dude with him and he does the work. It's just odd. And in Bruce's case judging by what we've heard about the Kirk contract, he referees between multiple opinions so he does have some say in that regard. You can talk up Jay's power. But the bottom line is if you buy into Mike Jones' narrative on Kirk, Jay's take wasn't heeded to from Bruce. We read multiple accounts of the building being divided on Kirk -- Jay supposedly was the guy in the lets get the deal done camp. Jay didn't win that argument. So if Bruce isn't running with Jay's take on QB (his speciality), not sure where the confidence is that Jay's say will be the overriding one on other spots.
Getting into the discussion as for how good Bruce is at hiring people or working with them and supposedly getting out of the way. Really is off topic, but the idea that the dude is a really really good GM is questionable at best at least reputation wise. Buc fans didn't seem to love the dude when he ultimately got canned there.
In his defense though, I don't think he was making the calls. But again that's a running theme with him. The GM who isn't a personnel guy. Nothing personal with me against Bruce. I just don't want ANY guy that fits that profile.
In another post you seemed to imply that people forget all the glow about what we felt about Bruce before the Scot hire. That is, if I understood your point right. If so, I think you are forgetting what people felt after 2014. Any afterglow of hey Vinny is gone was over at least in terms of fans fist pumping that we got Bruce in the fold. Grant Paulsen questioned Bruce in that infamous post season press conference, with something to the effect of hey why not a traditional GM for once? Bruce goes well we had Casserly years back. Paulsen said something to the effect that yeah Bruce but that was long ago. The sentiment for a chunk of fans then, as I recall it, (I was among those fans) at the time was lets get a real traditional GM for a change. Then it happened with Scot! It was great. It wasn't that Scot just joined an operation that we already liked a lot and now we are forgetting about -- where Scot just added to the good feelings that already existed. Far from it. The feeling was the ship was sinking.
As for Bruce versus Vinny, its irrelevant to the point. But I'll humor it for entertainment reasons. Both of them were here while really dumb trades happened that involved giving up high draft picks. Both of them had a bunch of FA lemon signings. Though who doesn't? So no biggie there. Both has up and down drafts, some good, some bad. Yes, Bruce is by a mile the smarter fiscal guy and I'd love it if he just stayed in that lane but that doesn't seem to be what he wants to do at least in the moment. I'd take Bruce over Vinny. However, If Bruce is the guy who can't lock in his franchise QB (unlike every other team on the planet) he in my book would be easily worse than Vinny. It really to me comes down at this point to Kirk to me. And I think I'm far from alone in that take. As Ross Tucker said months back (in his optimsm that a Kirk contract would happen), Bruce doesn't want his legacy to be losing the only franchise QB this team has developed in decades, so he won't. I guess that remains to be seen.