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I disagree with Keim, its ridiculous to think that this FO was not ~80% sure which QB they are targeting at #2 before a single visit or combine. The rest of the time was used to just confirm that decision and look for any major red flags.. that decision should have been hopefully confirmed as i haven't heard anything bad about Maye. Most of the info is already out there via game tape and not based on a 30min scripted combine work. And none of these pundits know anything... because with a solid and professional FO this info does NOT escape. What FOs do is disseminate misinformation with a the hope of some dumb GMs listening and letting players slip. Which sounds like the campaign against Maye over the last few weeks. One thing i do know.. with the moves from this org so far I am just 'cautiously neutral' and after watching idiot Ron fumble through the draft over the last 4 years this FO has to knock it out of the park in this upcoming draft to set this franchise up big for years to come.

Even if Dal was willing to trade Parsons.. i would bet anything it wouldn't be to Wash inside the division.

I think you'll be disappointed... Texans are a legit contender. They got better across the board while already having a great coach, two of the top young WRs in the NFL.. not much of a running game in 23. Now have a much improved D and Mixon at RB, Diggs, etc. Unless Stroud completely falls off in 24 all of a sudden for no reason... they have a real shot to get deep in the playoffs.

Interesting move by buffalo. Diggs is definitely a diva and a pain in the ass, but Allen was nearing bust status before they traded for Diggs. They still need a number 1 wr to replace him.

Howell is fine as a backup to a vet qb with growth opportunity. He is not someone you want backing up a fresh rookie qb. Not sure Mariota is either but we’ll see how it plays out.

“The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth.” ― Garry Kasparov This one guy said we might trade the pic for Rogers... seems legit 😑

I wouldn't say he is perfect for our situation but agree that he is not a detriment to a rookie QB or the team and he is the best we got, it can always be worse .... Issue is that while we have Terry under his current contract we will not sign a true 1A type WR because paying 2 wrs 20+ mil per year WILL be a detriment to our cap. Bears seem to be OK with that though since they are paying Allen and Moore 20+ mil each. Time will tell if this was a worthwhile investment. Unless Skins have a plan to bring in someone better.. i dont see him being traded and nobody is stupid enough to give even one 1st rd pick for him. I would shift my focus on finding that Keenan Allen type WR in the draft though.

In general I would rate terry as 20-25 best WR in the NFL 2nd + contract Keenan Allen Davante Adams Mike Evans Amari Cooper Deandre Hopkins Jacoby Meyers.. maybe

You seem clueless. Not only is he overvalued by the fans... but he was overvalued (and overpaid) by the previous FO.... understandably so since no-one else wanted to play for the sh!tshow of the previous regime. He is currently the 9th highest paid WR in the NFL https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver I can find at least 5 Wrs making less that I would take over him in a heartbeat. He is a great lockeroom guy, class act and a great 1B, but we need a 1A to help a rookie QB succeed

Terry . .like most other Skins players, is drastically overvalued by the fans. He is a solid Wr, but not a difference maker by any means. If we could pry Jefferson away from Min and trade Terry.. it would be a huge win for the org and the rookie QB

except for... just because you play QB does not mean you can pick a QB.. completely different skills sets. Look at Elways history

100% agree... Not only that, but i can see Peters moving back in to the top half of the first round to pick up the best available LT.. similar to what Texans did last year when they picked up Stroud at #2 and Will Anderson a few pics later.

ouch...That sounds like an overpay. Good for Chase.. still riding his college tape.

I will be shocked if Peters does not take Maye.. its all but a given this will happen. Personally dont see Daniels even being close. Too many opinions out there with different agendas behind them.. dont over think it, pick the obvious choice.

seems like a reclamation project/ depth guy. I fully expect us to draft a CB in the first 3 rounds this year. With the amount of pics we now have in the top 3rds and the available depth Peters should be able to land some gems.

I’m not that sure that Russ is all that much better they Fields at this point and time. The basic plan is that both are better than what they had last year and both are cheap this year. One will show up to be the better qb in the off season, the other will be traded for future draft capital.. book it!

While Wilson might be fuming… great move by the Steelers, because when a starter goes down in preseason next year they can flip either Wilson or fields for a much higher round draft pick. Easy money

woohoo.. common sense wins again 😜

Loos like we are signing Pittman as well.. does this spell the end for Davis?

guys cmon... i mean yes, a hundred different things can happen. We could draft a qb at #2, but he breaks his leg going up to the podium and Mariota gets hit by car.. so Howell starts the season as the only QB on the roster 🤪 I am just looking at the most likely scenario and one that makes the most common sense....i guess i can be completely off base, but I doubt it, time will tell. its between these 2 options to me: They compete, but we still carry 3 qbs into the season. We trade Howell pre or post draft. *** and i highly doubt we get anything more than a 5th for him. My point is that they know what they have in Mariota, there is plenty of tape and they did not bring him in to compete... they brought him to be the 1st string backup..and possibly even start the first few games if the rookie struggles. Its a 6mil min contract with up to 10mil (with incentives), thats a high end backup contract. You dont make that kind of commitment to a guy you dont expect to be pencilled in as the backup QB. its not like Harris has 6-10mil burning a whole in his pocket and he just wants to spend it on something.. and yachts are just not that cool anymore. Also, this regime didnt draft Howell.. so they have no loyalty to him and based on the roster purge we saw over the last few weeks... they might want to send him packing as well. Sure, i guess its possible that if Howell is on the roster in training camp and finds his inner Brady over the summer and looks so damn impressive in training camp, that he wins the job outright... but i dont see it. (happy to be wrong though) .. and i dont see his presence undermining a top drafted rookie, not even remotely... as a 5th rd pick that didnt play well he is basically a nobody on this roster.

lol. Hell of a deductive logic you got there. You don’t sign a backup qb at 6+mil for one year to have him compete with Howell for the backup job especially if you think Howell has a good chance of winning that competition.

I also find these so called "rumors" of teams willing to give up a 3rd for Howell hilariously comical.. i think a 6th rd pick would be a steal at this point. a..d yes i quoted myself

I do agree that the players started tanking .. but more on the Defensive side. A point you cant refute is even an incompetent buffoon like 'send me the ring' Rivera couldn't help but bench him twice at the risk of completely losing the team and when Briset came in, the O actually looked somewhat competent both times. plenty of no name QBs came in and looked competent for a few games last year before Ds figured them out. Based on how Howell ended the season, no way anyone will trust his as a first backup QB. Briset is an example of a high end back up, Howell is nowhere close at this point of his career. we can agree to disagree but it sounds like the current FO is of the same mind, if they thought Howell could be a backup, they would not have paid Mariota.

sounds like you're trying to talk yourself in to him being an at least average QB... I disagree.. once teams figured him and Bienime out.. he became plain bad. To say nothing about him being a slow processor and taking historic # of sacks. You dont want your backup to come in and right away take -20yds of sacks. Now its possible he can fix these issues.. but at this point he is low end reclamation project at best

I made this argument in a different thread some time back.. that argument was the Howell is not at this point a good backup QB.. he is a 3rd stringer, because he does not yet possess the traits you want in a backup due to lack of time in the NFL and lack of experience. So while its possible he stays on the roster.. i fully believe that if Wash gets an offer of 5th rd or better... they will take it. Saying that.. i am even more puzzled by the Mariota pickup.. since he was never known as a great locker room guy or a great backup that knows his place (ala Brisset) He was always known as the "I am doing my best to be a starter again at all costs" and while thats acceptable when he backs up a veteran, i am not sure how thats beneficial to a rookie QB you plan to draft at #2. So if i put on my tin foil hat.. to me you bring in Mariota to possibly start at the beginning of the season, what that means for the #2 pick?? you decide..