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  1. ES Soccer Thread

    Oh, come on... corruption in International football? The very concept is outrageous! Sep Blatter is deeply offended. That being noted, as a still relative newcomer it has been interesting to observe reactions to various events. It seems like most people outside of the Barca community think the status quo is "UEFAlona", but the entire Barcelona fan base appears to be convinced that UEFA has it out for them and is just begging for another chance to drop a bomb on them. I guess it's not all that different than NFL fans and referees, except magnified by the religion status these teams seem to enjoy in Europe. Anyway, I know Roma is supposed to be one of the easier sides left, but I'm a little disappointed because my wife and I love Rome and I have a soft spot in my heart for Roma. When I started watching random matches I actually tried to be a Roma fan, but Ray Hudson and Barcelona claimed my heart.
  2. ES Soccer Thread

    6/10 for me.
  3. ES Soccer Thread

    Commenter on reddit's Barca subforum opined that Chelsea made a mistake coming out in all white kits because Messi thought they were Real Madrid.
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    The dude just commented on the lack of empty seats. In a 3 nil home playoff win.
  5. ES Soccer Thread

    Okay... I haven't heard many commenters for this sport, I must admit, but these Fox guys are terrible. Now I understand why I read an article celebrating Turner getting the rights next year.
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    Sorry about the quote... Can't delete it on my phone. Anyway... I had to miss the first half, but caught the halftime highlights after following the score line. Not bad at all.
  7. This will likely be the last one for this thread, as there is a dedicated pets thread I guess, but I thought I'd share this with the group. This is Scarlet and her lobster. When Scarlet first came to our house, we noticed she was a "picker-uper", ie when she is anxious she looks for something to hold in her mouth. Our first lab, Brier, used to do that when someone would come to the door (any random thing would do), even though she wasn't really anxious, just excited. Bean doesn't care about toys, and my sister in law had given him a Tuffy lobster for Christmas, so it was still sitting in our closet. I decided to give it to her so she'd have something appropriate to pick up and carry, and maybe it would help calm her during the transition. She loved it, and has been carrying it around. It's been a nice calming influence. We gave it to her Saturday evening. A few times, we would talk to her, like "oh... You have your lobster! " Mostly we were encouraging her to pick that up instead of something else. Sunday she was a lot more settled in and had left her lobster downstairs. On a whim, I decided to say "Go get your lobster!" I didn't think she'd actually do it. She looked at me for a second, then ran downstairs, and was clearly searching. At one point she popped her head around the stairs and looked at me so I repeated it. "Go get your lobster!" She disappeared again, then came back upstairs with her lobster and gave it to me. Less than a day without me even trying to teach her. We now have plans to challenge her with more toys and vocabulary.
  8. ES Soccer Thread

    Oh, okay... I was missing that context. All I kept seeing was you hope they release him. I didn't even consider that angle. Bad news for you, then... I'm pretty sure he's also part of their long term "aging forward replacement" plans.
  9. ES Soccer Thread

    Did Dembele run over your dog or something? Geez. In terms of 4-3-3, I have read that this is the Barca way. It seems that part of the Barca mythos, going back to Cruyff, is to play exciting football even if it doesn't win as much. Everybody seems to want a 4-3-3. Also, with Busquets, Rakitic, and Coutinho/Iniesta I don't see why that wouldn't be a strong enough midfield. Busquets seems to be one of the best ever as a holding mid, Rakitic is in good form this year, and while Iniesta is getting old Coutinho seems to be pretty good as well. The thinking with Griezmann seems to be that Suarez is aging and eventually so is (gulp) Messi even, so it would be more of a rotation next year and also a move for the future before it is necessary. I've seen a lot of people opine that as Messi gets older, he'll just drop deeper and play more in the creative mid role, which does leave a hole at forward, I guess. Full disclosure... At this point in my fandom, most of what I am stating is just synthesized consensus from what I've read from others. I'm still at the point where I'm googling formations and what it means to "add width" to start with.
  10. ES Soccer Thread

    I almost regret sticking my nose in, but since I have already done so... I have been reading your posts for a long time, and in my opinion your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. You have a big heart and you wear it on your sleeve. It seems all your emotions are powerful. I first observed this with RGIII, from the heights of joy to the depths of despair, but no matter where you went, there were no half measures. My opinion on this matter, as someone who is not involved, is that you have your back up and this is preventing your from processing things rationally. You're just reacting, lashing out. Many of the things you have written are pretty hostile, to be frank. Now, to be fair, I have already pointed out to Benning that he is trolling, because he is. He even kind of admitted it. The thing about Benning is that he is an agitator. I don't think he'll deny it... it's kind of his modus operandi and he's said so himself. He agitates on issues of race, specifically, and he does so because too often those issues are ignored totally. He's not in it to be liked, he's in it to stir things up and get people talking. His style is not the way I would approach things in general, but I do understand it. Heck, it worked on me to some extent... I had no idea about the incident with Suarez, so I looked it up. That being noted, you're all being nasty to each other and it doesn't honestly make any sense to me... it's not like saying harsh things or posting provocative videos accomplishes anything other than furthering the feud or making everyone more upset. Have you ever seen anyone change their behavior on a message board because they were called a liar or told to piss off? I haven't, so it seems like a waste of time to me, but as you noted, this thread is kind of its own thing, so if it makes you happy somehow, you do you. I'm hardly an expert, but I do read a Barca specific forum to try to plug in, and the general consensus is that it's NEVER going to happen. For one thing, he apparently doesn't even have a buyout clause in his contract, and the owners of PSG got him in large part to shill for the 2022 World Cup in Qatar. In any case, I haven't seen anyone say they would even WANT him back. A lot of Barca fans call him "Snakemar", and even for those who don't the general consensus is that while he is of course a truly fantastic player, he is also selfish and immature and the team is actually more balanced defensively without him. I wasn't paying close attention when he was playing for Barca, but the stats for this La Liga campaign would seem to bear that out. As for Dembele, he is the big hope of Barca fans everywhere, who howl each time Paulinho comes in and Valverde sets them in a 4-4-2. Fans want a 4-3-3 with Dembele on the wing to provide more width and attack. I just liked that cartoon because Neymar went to Paris to escape Messi's shadow, but as Thierry Henry recently said, to escape Messi's shadow he needs to switch sports.
  11. ES Soccer Thread

    He's not lying. It seems to be a misunderstanding, at worst. That seems familiar. It's also not BS about tribalism. You might be too far in to see it, but it worries me as an outsider thinking about coming in. I suspect you're right about Liverpool fans' tribalism being focused on the most, but that's the flipside of my response to the complaint that this has become a LIverpool thread... all the discussion here IS about Liverpool, so anything bad will likely about Liverpool as well.
  12. ES Soccer Thread

    Which is why it was trolling. You didn't provide any larger context or argument about the tribalism of soccer fans, you just took a shot at Liverpool fans because you knew it would rile them up. You are correct that this is basically a Liverpool thread, and I understand why that can be annoying to a fan of a team other than Liverpool. I don't think it's intentional... this is not a soccer board and I think there are several Liverpool fans, and as far as I can tell mostly singletons of other teams. That can create a situation where posts about Liverpool are going to get more responses because they're more interesting to the largest active group, whereas I posted something about Busquets and got one general response, but as far as I know there are no other Barcelona fans here, so at most the other readers probably just went "hmmm... that's nice" (if that). If we want that to change, it's kind of up to non-Liverpool fans (and there are some) to post non-Liverpool stuff, and perhaps even respond to other non-Liverpool stuff to encourage further discussion. Otherwise it will naturally be all Liverpool, not by conspiracy, just by the nature of message boards. It's also obvious that you have some history of conflict, and things are turning bitter. But, since you're being honest in the quote above, that's why what you did was trolling. You might feel you're justified, getting revenge, whatever. You might even be right. But you weren't trying to advance conversation, or make a larger point. You were taking a shot. That's trolling.
  13. ES Soccer Thread

    Well, the reality is that it kind of is trolling. I've been lurking here for a while, and I have never seen you participate. Do you even follow a soccer team? In any case, your first appearance had some merit, but it was still trollish because you just dropped in and made some reference to Liverpool fans supporting the racism of Luis Suarez, which was aimed for maximum reaction and with minimal context or explanation. I had no idea what you were talking about, but I follow Barcelona now, so I looked it up, and it appears that what's really going on is that Suarez is a hothead who got into another scuffle, and then there was a cultural misunderstanding, which you later acknowledged. Further context indicated that what you were actually upset about was that Liverpool fans in a recent match were still giving the accuser a hard time, which I actually found to be a valid criticism. Just because Suarez is innocent doesn't mean that the accuser is guilty, which is what misunderstanding means. So it's not cool for Liverpool fans to be harrassing the other player, though I suspect that's less racism and more the outrageous tribalism that still makes me nervous to be picking up following the sport (GHH's reference to fans singing about the Liverpool dead being another ugly example). That being noted, it is true that another ugly aspect of soccer is the racism of some fans, especially ultras, and from what I've been reading a large number of ultra groups are literal neo-Nazis and/or fascists, including Barcelona's which started as extreme left nationalist under Franco and has run hard right separatist in the last decades. That also gives me pause, and I am watching that as well. So you had a point about that, though stated in a trollish way. In this case, though, you appear to be taking a shot at Liverpool fans just because a former Liverpool player did something crass and stupid, but it's unclear what larger point you might have other than making Liverpool fans uncomfortable. That's pretty much the definition of trolling.
  14. ES Soccer Thread

    By the way, I was curious, so I looked it up. Although the name "soccer" doesn't make any sense to me, it apparently should make sense to you, because as usual, it's the Empire's fault. Apparently the UK called Association Football soccer for short, to differentiate from Rugby, which was rugger. The US picked it up to differentiate from the other offshoot that became football here. Even more interesting is that soccer and football were still used interchangeably in the UK until the 1980s, when it was deemed too American, it would seem. I haven't read the referenced paper, but it seems plausible to me.
  15. In other news, it's probably good we have a California King.