SonOfWashington Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 CBSSports: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/28814951 Nelson rules in favor of players, lifts lockout Posted on: April 25, 2011 5:54 pm Edited on: April 25, 2011 5:59 pm Posted by Andy Benoit The much-awaited ruling from Federal Judge Susan Nelson in the Brady v NFL case finally came in late Monday. As expected, Nelson ruled in favor of the players. Nelson is lifting the lockout. The owners were seeking an immediate stay, but NFL Network's Albert Breer reports that Nelson declined. Thus, the owners will take their appeal to the 8th Circuit Court. If they don't get the appeal granted, free agency could begin soon. PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/25/report-judge-nelson-lifts-lockout/ Report: Judge Nelson lifts lockout Posted by Mike Florio on April 25, 2011, 5:53 PM EDT AP As expected, a ruling on the players’ motion to lift the lockout came Monday. As expected, the ruling favors the players. Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Judge Nelson has issued a ruling in favor of the players. The NFL reportedly will seek an immediate stay of the implementation of the decision. If the stay is granted, the lockout would not be lifted until, at the earliest, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit issues a ruling in the case. The players surely would request expedited consideration of the appeal. If Judge Nelson refuses to grant the stay, the NFL surely would seek a stay from the appeals court. If neither court gives the league the stay, the doors will be forced open, soon. In the short term, it’s good news for the fans. If the ruling stands, the season will occur as scheduled. And maybe folks will even give a crap about the draft. ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6424084 Updated: April 25, 2011, 6:12 PM ET Judge halts NFL lockout By Chris Mortensen ESPN U.S. District Court Judge Susan Richard Nelson has granted NFL players their motion for a preliminary injunction, therefore lifting the lockout that was imposed by owners on March 11. Neither side had an official reaction, pending the official posting by Judge Nelson but the NFL is expected to immediately request a stay of the ruling until it can make its arguments before the United States Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit, which is headquartered in St. Louis but also has an office in St. Paul. A judicial assistant for Judge Nelson, whose chambers are in St. Paul, declined comment on whether the judge has enjoined the lockout, according to sources. The NFL is expected to release a statement shortly after Judge Nelson's ruling is posted. The immediate impact of the ruling on the status of an estimated 500 free agent players and other player transactions is uncertain. If the league does not get the court to stay the ruling pending an appeal, the league will have to open its doors for players. The NFL also will have to decide whether to impose a similar system that has been in place under the previous collective bargaining agreement that expired on March 11. The players had asked U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson to immediately halt the lockout at a hearing April 6. Players including MVP quarterbacks Tom Brady and Peyton Manning filed the injunction request along with a class-action antitrust lawsuit against the NFL shortly before the lockout began March 11. Nelson ordered additional mediation between the owners and players' association while she considered the request. The sides met four times with U.S. Judge Magistrate Arthur Boylan after 16 days of failed talks in front of a federal mediator in Washington. Nelson then gave the sides a break from mediation last week, and they weren't scheduled to reconvene until May 16. Commissioner Roger Goodell said Friday he didn't believe the labor impasse would be resolved through the courts. "I recognize people try to get leverage in negotiations, but at the end of the day it's going to come down to the negotiations," Goodell said. "The sooner we get to that negotiation, the better. I think the litigation has delayed those negotiations." It still wasn't clear Monday if and when the NFL would decide to cancel games. The tentative 2011 schedule was released last Tuesday and had regular-season games beginning Sept. 8, but it included room to maneuver. The NFL could still squeeze in 16 games with a three-week delayed start by eliminating bye weeks and the week between the conference championships and the Super Bowl. Executive vice president for football operations Ray Anderson has said it was feasible to play fewer than the normal four preseason games, but general managers and coaches would prefer at least two. In another ruling expected soon, U.S. District Judge David Doty has a May 12 hearing set on the players' request for damages after he ruled in March that the NFL did not maximize revenues for both sides when it renegotiated $4 billion in TV contracts with the labor dispute looming. The NFL has also filed an unfair labor practice charge against the union with the National Labor Relations Board. The board could announce in the next four to six weeks whether it will hear the complaint. NFL officials contend that alone would be significant. Eric Grubman, the NFL's executive vice president of finance, said if the board started the process, that would indicate it believed the decertified NFL Players Association was still acting as a union, as the NFL has alleged. The players' lawsuit was combined with two other similar claims from retirees, former players and rookies-to-be, with Hall of Famer Carl Eller the lead plaintiff in that group. Executive VP Jeff Pash, the NFL's lead negotiator, has said he felt talks between the league and the retired players were particularly productive, and that the owners remain committed to improving benefits and taking care of their former players. The league and players disagree sharply on how to divide more than $9 billion in annual revenue. The owners initially wanted to double the money they get off the top for expenses from about $1 billion to about $2 billion, but that number dropped during the first round of mediation. The players have insisted on full financial disclosure from all 32 teams, and so far the league has not opened the books to their liking. Other major issues include benefits for retired players and the NFL's desire to stretch the regular season from 16 to 18 games. The NFL also wants to cut almost 60 percent of guaranteed pay for first-round draft picks, lock them in for five years and divert the savings to veterans' salaries and benefits. More than $525 million went to first-rounders in guaranteed payments in 2010. The league wants to decrease that figure by $300 million, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. APRIL 29 EDIT: OWNERS GET STAY OF INJUNCTION, LOCKOUT BACK ON http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/29/report-owners-get-stay-of-injunction-lockout-back-on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Lockout is lifted for a whole 5 minutes before the owners appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeBilly Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 McNabb just traded to vikings for 2nd round pick. Okay, I am just dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I wonder when the 8th Circuit will accept or reject the appeal. I'm sure dates will be thrown out there, but we're closer today than yesterday. Let's get this ***** done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Glad they ruled for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 time to go sign Peyton Manning to a three year 100 million dollar deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefJerky Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 PLEASE don't grant the appeal 8th circuit. Enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossomo Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Lockout is lifted for a whole 5 minutes before the owners appeal. Yeah it's interesting. Nelson didn't file a stay with her decision. Now, the owners will have to seek one with the Eighth Circuit, where the appeal will be heard. So technically, I think coaches could talk to players for the moment - up till the moment the owners get their stay, if they get one. Lockout is lifted until that moment. Free agency very well could begin - soon. Time will tell, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxima2000 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 time to go sign Peyton Manning to a three year 100 million dollar deal That would be so awesome. Championship!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 If I'm the coaches, I'm sending out playbooks now and calling everyone I can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 time to go sign Peyton Manning to a three year 100 million dollar deal can we actually do this? please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxima2000 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 In all seriousness, if there is a 100 million dollar man, then Peyton Manning is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 That would be so awesome.Championship!!!!!!!!! It was actually a joke....sad part is if there was no cap...I'd be all for it! Not my money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 If 8th Court does not grant stay, will be interesting to see how quickly FA starts. @tomecurran if owners tell GMs, coaches to not sign free agents until dust settles a bit, that would be - I presume - collusion We signing VY, Matt Hasselbeck, Ryan Harris or Davin Joseph first? Edit: The first signing is prolly Tana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaRonDontLikeUgly Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 "In the short term, it's good for the fans" So what does this really mean? Let's say the appeal is denied... everything goes back to normal and the offseason begins? Let's say the appeal is upheld... does that mean we go back to being locked out? Someone explain in 'simple-man' terms please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveMySkins Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Yeah it's interesting. Nelson didn't file a stay with her decision. Now, the owners will have to seek one with the Eighth Circuit, where the appeal will be heard. So technically, I think coaches could talk to players for the moment - up till the moment the owners get their stay, if they get one. Lockout is lifted until that moment. Free agency very well could begin - soon. Time will tell, we'll see. I couldn't imagine any owner being stupid enough to run out and start signing player's before they've had a chance to meet and go over they're options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel2 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Do you think the owners will began to document their hidden expenses? Or will they continue to think that they control this thing call negotiations? They are not too smart, most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 I just saw this on ESPN. Man you guys are fast:ols:..I love this place. This is great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 (in the voice of Mickey...) hahah,, Hi Kids! Say, you know what makes Mickey so mad he could just **** in his hat? Losing money! Haha! I hate losing money,, if anything Disney ever does tanks, we fire everyone involved, and then cut off the executive producer's fingers! Now, it's very upsetting to me to pay for FOUR days of draft programming, and not have any players there for people to look at. SO, haha... better get your **** straight, because if there's one player in this country bigger than the NFL, it's Disney. And when I pay for something, i ****ing well better get it, or heads are going to roll and billion dollar broadcasting deals disappear! ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 woooooooooooooooooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 (in the voice of Mickey...) I pictured this mouse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 If the appeal gets granted, I totally give up. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANSKINS98 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 time to go sign Peyton Manning to a three year 100 million dollar deal In all seriousness, if there is a 100 million dollar man, then Peyton Manning is it. eh I'd rather have Tom Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 So wait...if this is upheld does that mean that there won't be a rookie pay scale? Would things just go back to the way they were last offseason or would this force a new CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Can we please one day get a "Like" button....very nice Bang, very funny indeed Good to see some movement on this front. You guys weren't really buying into the whole "no season of football" crap were you? Sorry but no football would be like no government, isn't going to happen imo. Something will get done and this will all be a distant memory for all of us. Just a matter of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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