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  2. scruffylookin

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    The stadium being “half full” has been going on at various points for decades. RFK had announced 40-45k attendance at various times in the early 80s and mid 90s. Team performance and weather were the seeming reasons. I had season tickets to Jack Kent Cooke Stadium from 97-01. I gave them up due to the near double in price jump for club tickets once my lease ended. I have been back only twice since. 2007 against Dallas and 2011 against the 49ers. So my experiences are likely dated. To me, the traffic issue did improve. It was awful in those early years. It took nearly an hour to go from my parking space to get on the beltway. That’s the reason for the exodus before the game ends. Nobody is interested in getting home at 7pm. I think felt that it improved but I have not been back, nor do I have any desire to, in 7 years. For me, I went to games to see the game. Call me crazy. I couldn’t care less about tailgating. I wanted to see my Redskins play in person. That’s it. What I quickly discovered was that it’s not so fun to spend money on club seats, endure rush hour level beltway delays and sit in a dead stadium to watch the Redskins lose. So I stopped. From my experience, fans are energized at the start and then apathy sets in as the team plays its mediocre brand of football. The Former JKC can be a real home field. I was there for our only playoff win and it was awesome. Great experience and it felt like what I always imagined what it must have felt like going to RFK during the playoff runs in the 80s and early 90s. But like RFK, you need a team to feed your energy. Being a fan elsewhere and “representing Redskins Nation” is easy in that you have “us against them” mentality. At least for me, I’m more likely to break out an old Redskins cap making a trip to Baltimore or Pennsylvania than going out shopping locally. So to me, seeing fans show up at opposing stadiums is no surprise. But what happened Sunday was new and different. That many empty seats at the home opener, after a win, is new. Fan apathy has hit a new low. I mean we have a 34 year old qb and 33 year old rb as our “stars” and they just got here. They are our “shiny toys”. Its tough to excited about Alex Smith when we have already seen failures from McNabb, Brunell and George. And memo to Bruce Allen, Larry Michael, that newbie they trotted out in preseason to tout all the changes at the stadium, and Little Danny, nobody cares about “party decks”, being able to get gouged by buying stuff using an app and new paint jobs if there is no belief in the organization. You want fans to buy tickets, make an investment in the team? Build an organization we can believe in. Save your money on party zones and pointless trips to the Bahamas and invest in getting a real football person leading this organization and it’s vision. Invest in building the best scouting department in the NFL. Invest in building the best training facility to attract free agents. Then hope will make a return and so will the silent majority of fans who simply don’t feel it’s worth it to go out and invest money and a full Sunday to see a poor team. If some one want to say that makes me or others a bad fan, whatever. Then that means the 15k that showed up to Pats games in the early 90s are the only real fans and the sellouts now are just bandwagon frauds. So be it.
  3. primetime441

    Booing - at the Stadium

    They lay an egg against a subpar Colts team and expect to be coddled?? Bunch of professional sissies. I'd be supportive if they were coming off a Super Bowl or a conference title or even a playoff appearance but they played a punting game with a crappy team and expected paying customers to cheer a crap product. Tell CT to pass whatever he's smoking. For his sake, I'm glad he never played for Philly otherwise he'd be popping depression pills. How about next time instead of concentrating on the boo's go out and execute the game plan against a lesser opponent.
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  5. BigDibbs31

    Redskins vs Packers Prediction Thread: Slippin' Away

    38 Packers 13 Redskins I don't see how we have any chance here unless we come away with 3+ turnovers and the offense has 3+ long, time consuming TD drives in addition to capitalizing on all those turnovers. Packers fans will be loud in the stadium and it will be like a 7 on 7 drill for Rodgers.
  6. I'd only want a drastic change like that if Snyder sold the team. I'd hate for our first memories of a new name and logo being continual misery with Danny running the team.
  7. I think this would be more appropriate for the new logo.
  8. If we had to change, we could keep the same color scheme and go with..... The Washington Admirals. Yes, this logo is the Norfolk Admirals hockey logo, but I like this concept better than the skull admiral that's used more frequently. Flame away!
  9. Rogue Jedi

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    Yeah I was even nervous after I posted it on here, but stick to topic and we should ok.
  10. Renegade7

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I think that's probably where we should leave the name thing on in here, so mods don't get on us. I think a rebrand is a fair discussion at this point, just not sure where.
  11. Rogue Jedi

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    The booing was absolutely well deserved. The stadium was half empty at kickoff. They ones who are in their seats were the die-hards. They are the ones who traveled, and paid more than what that ticket price is worth. And they knew it too. So they booed them. And players on this team are upset? Eagles fans have been known to be the assholes of the NFL and they've been booing a long time. Maybe that paid off for them. They hold their team accountable, no matter what. Maybe we should start behaving like them.
  12. Renegade7

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    Norfolk Admirals are a minor league hockey team in Hampton Roads. I think a color change would make me sick to my stomach, but that's just my opinion, not judging anyone that wants to do that, and will still go to the games if they do that. We might as well avoid the warning points in here on that one.
  13. Burgundy Yoda

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I don't care either way, I just want better football.
  14. Renegade7

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    And the point of my responses is even though I went, that doesn't make me a better fan then plenty I know didn't. I have a tattoo and jersey's, that's not a pass to tell anyone they aren't a die hard. I know plenty die-hards that couldn't, and tried to help you understand why it getting to this point shouldn't be an opportunity to call out other people from the area to do their part. I'm seeing what's happening in my own turf with my own eyes, I don't need an interpretation or explanation, I'm living it and in all honesty, I'm fine with how that stadium looked as I know it got Snyder's attention (we're at that point now again, its very last days of Vinny feel to it when I was in there). This team hasn't done theirs in 27 years, you are calling out the wrong people. What is happening is we are losing the people that would be as loyal as we are if that loyalty was earned, its just not, we are cannibalizing each other while Snyder counts his money. Affecting his money is only way to really get his attention to point of forcing a change, we should be talking protests if we keep losing, not challenging who loves the team more despite how terrible their play is. BTW, I boo and I cheer, its the only way to let them know how I really feel because I don't believe they look at the site like some of us believe they used to.
  15. skins2victory

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    This topic has its own thread in the tailgate. #KeepTheName
  16. Burgundy Yoda

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I like it too because it's not taken by any professional team. The only semi-pro team that has Admirals as a name is the Milwaukee Admirals in the AHL, they're the Nashville Predators farm team. I'm a Preds fan so that's why Admirals came to mind and all the Washington teams besides the Wiz have some Patriotic name. Goes along well with the city.
  17. Rogue Jedi

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    Actually, Admirals is not bad at actually. Probably my second fav after Warriors. They could probably even match the color scheme with nats/caps/wiz too. But unfortunately, I agree that could be a little too drastic to appease the die-hard-keep-things-the-way-they-are crowd.
  18. skins2victory

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    Well it sounds like we both agree that the showing was bad. If you were at the game, then you are not the group this thread is aimed at. If we had more fans like you, we would have a home field advantage. Which is the whole point of this thread. HTTR
  19. Renegade7

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I was at the Colts game, you might have missed that and the part where half the games I've been to have been losses, all home games. I'm not saying it wasn't bad, but I'm not shocked, and I'm tired of people including you blaming the fans for this or calling us out for not being real fans. You don't know what a real fan is in that case. F that, other teams run into the same problem and when the team starts winning they come right back, that's normal. You're just pissed it happened to us and trying to find someone to blame. What I don't understand is why you aren't blaming Allen or Snyder. BTW, youre picture shows 2:05 on the clock, the only time we were at that part of the field with that much time on the clock was the 4th quarter. That bottom pic is likely from the top level where there was the least amount of fans. Point your anger at someone that can actually do something about this, is there job to do something about this, we have no control over this nonsense, otherwise we woulda taken the team from Snyder ourselves years ago. You what its like defending you're "racist" team in the city they play, the area you grew up in? I'm home and sometimes I feel like the enemy, so please, get off our case. Then you know what that drive back feels like. I've driven back to Hampton Roads from night game to work the next day, watched the Giants rip the ball right out of Garcon's hands with my own eyes, talking about who wants it more, if only we showed up to support them he might of wanted it more instead. Nonsense, that place was packed, too, that wasn't why we lost.
  20. Burgundy Yoda

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I like the Washington Admirals probably the most. Would be an extreme change in uniform design though.
  21. skins2victory

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    And no I don't live in Seattle. When the Skins come to town I drive 6 hours to Seattle and spend a lot of money to attend.
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  23. skins2victory

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    No not all local fans. In the images, I do see that people showed up. There is obviously some good ones left. I do go to games sir, I try my best to rep Redskins Nation. I hope you will as well. LOL you act like im asking all the local fans to go to every game, not the case. The images on TV were by far the worst showing, ever. EVER! To a home opener when we were 1-0. I do not understand why our fan base would not have had a better showing than that. I flew over to a Skins game 3 years ago. I thought It was great. Redskins nation was representing that day.
  24. abdcskins

    Pathetic crowds at home opener

    I will definitely agree with you on that. Every season is a new start. You never know what can happen. No reason the fans shouldn't have come out on Sunday. We were 1-0 coming home. I myself was expecting a win. If I were home (I'm in California) and someone had offered me good seats I would have gone to the game. I think ultimately fans are fed up and don't want to support Snyder or the Redskins anymore, simple and plain. They are sick of the name controversy, the continual mediocre play on the field, the front office debacle, and many other things that people have touched on in this thread. That is not even to mention the general distaste with the NFL and the rule change, anthem controversy, and whatever else you want to throw on top of it.
  25. The penalties are getting to seem so random, it really takes away from the enjoyment of the game. I'm wondering what the games will even look like in 10 years. When I first started watching, I would see guys like Ronnie Lott and Joey Browner dominate games by crushing the WR with great hits to stop the catch from being completed. That is how you judged a great player. Now, when I watch highlights of Hall of Fame DBs, I'm thinking "That is such a stupid hit... first down offense. Oh wait... that was what won games back then." I watched a replay of a Green Bay v Dallas game from the 90's, and I couldn't believe how physical the game was. Every other play you would see aggressive hits that would now be cause for ejection... but that was just playoff football back then. I wonder if I watch highlights 20 years from now and see a sack, if I'll be saying... "how stupid... you cant tackle a QB behind the line of scrimmage, get that idiot LB out of there".
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