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The Curious Case of Scot McCloughan

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   Unless you have been living under a rock for the last 20 hours, you know that Scot McCloughan has been released of his duties with the Washington Redskins. The question now turns to why did this happen. There are two competing theories, the first being that the Scot was showing up to work and games drunk, the second being that a power struggle ensued over the course of the last 18 months. Which of these theories are more plausible, i'll let you decide.

 

 

A. Scot was Drunk

 

   According to the Washington Post, an unnamed team official stated that Scot was showing up to games, and work drunk. The team official went on to say that the last 18 months has been a disaster (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-fire-gm-scot-mccloughan-after-two-seasons/2017/03/09/652aa4f0-04fc-11e7-b9fa-ed727b644a0b_story.html?utm_term=.cdc4252fbabc). 

 

   When looking at this possibility, several red flags are raised. The Redskins are not known as an organization that can keep a tight lid on things. For example, one need only look back to the last season under Shanahan. It seemed like every Sunday morning leaks were coming out of every pipe flooding the airwaves about the dysfunction. For this organization to hide from the press that Scot was drunk during games (in which one might assume the press saw and talked to Scot), and showing up to work drunk would require a suspension of disbelief. 

 

   This is not say that this is not impossible. We all knew that Scot had a drinking problem, and that it was well known that Scot never stopped drinking when he came to Washington. Scot said during his introductory press conference that he had the problem under control. Did Scot lose control? Perhaps. 

 

 

B. The Power Struggle

 

   The second option, one which has been widely reported on is that the Bruce Allen and Scot could not work together. In that same press conference that Scot said he had a drinking problem, he also said that Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen said that they were embarrassed and only wanted to win. They turned to Scot, a widely believed elite talent evaluator to turn this franchise around and it was reported (by Bruce Allen) that Scot would have total control over the roster. 

 

   The first sign that perhaps we were mislead about how much power Scot really had is that Scot was never able to hire his own scouting team. Instead he had to work with the scouting team already in the building. The second sign is that both Jon Gruden and Scot had to go to Bruce and Dan to convince them to start Cousins over RG3. Which is odd because anyone with limited football knowledge knew that RG3 could not play the Quarterback position at that point in time. We now know that Scot did not have complete control over the final 53 man roster. As reported in the same Washington Post report, Scot lost out on decisions including the decision to keep Ryan Grant, instead of Rashad Ross. 

 

   The most interesting report was that during a team, a cornerback left the practice, and went to the team locker room. Seeing this, Scot went into the locker and talked to the player, asking him to come by his office so they could further discuss what had happened. Bruce ripped Scot for doing so, and cursed at him telling him to never do such a thing. 

 

 

The problem may be that we will never know what really happened inside of Redskins Park. Could it be a little of column A, and a little of column B? All signs point to that both probably played a factor in the decision. Scot was still drinking, and Bruce had enough of Scot. 

 

 

 

 


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Excellent post!   Last sentence is probably right on.   We just lost a valuable GM to an egotistical man who trashed Tampa Bay.  Why is Snyder so blind? The average fan can make better decisions.  We just lost our top 2 receivers, best defensive lineman and alienated our QB.  Who do we pick up???  A 25 year old safety who has already played on 3 different teams (what does that tell you), and a defensive lineman from Oakland who has had a 1/2 sack and a 2 1/2 sack in his 4 years not to mention 63 tackles in 64 games.   That's 1 tackle a game.   GREAT PICKUPS   Somebody else's trash.  My opinion is that Snyder should have worked harder at trying to help Scot with his disease and let Scot make the decisions.  Bruce Allen is a complete failure.....lets not forget where we stood after Shanahan with Allen saying he was part of the failure.  Allen needs to be terminated IMMEDIATELY as the entire world and the Redskin fan base know this was a mistake.  Our team started winning and pieces coming together and was all destroyed by Allen.  Scot wanted Kirk signed last year and we would have had him long term for less money, but Allen nixed that.  The man must be removed now and every attempt made to get Scot back.

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B.

And frankly, even if it was A, I think it is a punk-ass move to trash Scot and say that sort of thing publicly. What a bunch of scum. Why would anyone want to work for that organization? And why to I keep putting myself and my family through the hell of being a Redskins fan!?!? THAT is the real question!

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, baddog said:

B.

And frankly, even if it was A, I think it is a punk-ass move to trash Scot and say that sort of thing publicly. What a bunch of scum. Why would anyone want to work for that organization? And why to I keep putting myself and my family through the hell of being a Redskins fan!?!? THAT is the real question!

 

 

 

 

That is a good question, one I often ask myself. 

 

Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. If anything is clear, under Bruce (or in the longer term Dan), nothing is about to change. 

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This isn't a bad post, but some of it's wrong.

 

The Washington Post you cited reporting Scot preferred Ross over Grant doesn't mean Ross was cut.   It means the coaching staff liked Grant on the depth chart more.   Both made the roster.   Having control over the composition of the roster does not mean you have control over the coaching staff's preference of who's better at a given position.

 

The comment here that the team said something publicly about Scot drinking is also fiction.   The team did not.   The team has said NOTHING publicly, which is probably a greater problem than what the team is accused of doing, which is planting it anonymously.   The team should openly say it if it's true.   I tend to fall in a bit of a third camp on this.

 

I think Scot probably drank a bit.    But so what.   I've seen these guys out.   They all drink a bit.   I've met Bruce Allen and I can tell you he likes being the apple of everyone's eye, so I presume he didn't like the shine being on Scot, especially for successful players largely born PRE-Scot.   I.E. Cousins, Garcon, Williams, Kerrigan, Baker, etc, etc., etc., etc.   But so what.   It's not uncommon for there to be jockeying for favor in organizations.

At the end of the day I think what cost Scot his job is he didn't do a very good one.   We got too little out of our early picks.   We have an abysmal defense that probably had the least talent EVERYWHERE except corner and outside linebacker, and other than Crowder it's not like he is directly responsible for a lot offensively.   

I will say I think he WOULD be successful over time.   But he had not born a lot of fruit as of yet.

And I think a bit of both stories, combined with not being all that good yet, probably contributed.

 

I do think it's fairly clear we handled the communications around this like idiots.   That's totally on the team.   So it is a hard day to smile regardless.

 

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It's over and done with; unless Scott sues the Skins.  I'm sure plenty of dirt would come out in a trial.

So baring that, I wish Scott well. I hope, he address his problem once and for all.  Until he realizes he

needs to stop drinking completely; he will never to be able to function.

 

I think it's a Mix of A,B and C; with C being, his acquisitions weren't really that great.

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49 minutes ago, Art said:

The Washington Post you cited reporting Scot preferred Ross over Grant doesn't mean Ross was cut.   It means the coaching staff liked Grant on the depth chart more.   Both made the roster.   Having control over the composition of the roster does not mean you have control over the coaching staff's preference of who's better at a given position.

 

The comment here that the team said something publicly about Scot drinking is also fiction.   The team did not.   The team has said NOTHING publicly, which is probably a greater problem than what the team is accused of doing, which is planting it anonymously.  

 

 

To clear it up Art, I was saying that Scot was not given full control (as we were told by Bruce) of the roster. Other examples were that Scot wanted to cut certain players/retain certain players but was overruled by Bruce. 

 

By placing the term "unnamed" next to the official I was implying, perhaps not clearly, that it was anonymous. We should also not be naive and assume that Bruce was not aware that such a leak was going to come out right as the firing occurred. Correlation does not mean corroboration, but sometimes it does. 

 

Thanks Art, love the feedback. 

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I hate this loss as I think Scot is a scouting and personnel genius. however...

A ) Scot had a drinking problem before he came here. It was my only concern about him when he was hired.

B ) You could see it in his face. He has been a heavy drinker for a long time.

 

C ) We haven't heard much from him since he punched a wall over Doctson's Achilles injury. I repeat... he punched a wall. The kind of thing you do when you are drunk.

My guess is Scot fell off the wagon long ago and the team was quietly trying to help him get back on. I think they ran out of time in the public eye of the free agency period and it left everyone wondering what was happening. In the end they had to reluctantly move on. 

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There's an article today on Yahoo by Chris Robinson extremely critical of the Skins anonymously dumping on Scot as a drunk.   In it, we have something of a timeline for what happened from outside the team, if the writer is true, and it does establish things pretty clearly.   In that article it is written another personnel man leaned in to the writer, Robinson, and asked if he'd talked to Scot McCloughan lately.   His voice mail is full.   He's not answering his texts.   This is prior to the combine.   The man's grandmother had recently died.   

Cooley, today, says he was not told by anyone on the team to hint that Scot's been drinking as to why he was largely kept away from the media.   And he's absolutely not lying.   But he's also not telling the truth.   As HE KNOWS if Scot was, or wasn't.   Like Paul Woody hinted in his article about wondering about Scot and seeing the red face and smelling the alcohol on his breath coming off the training camp practice field, Cooley actually is IN the building.   He knows.   
 

GM is being held down.   Why?   Someone who knows speculates, "Hey, maybe he's drinking?"   Cooley said this after Scot's grandmother died.   Scot was not answering texts.   He was not answering his phone according to Robinson.   The man may have been close to his grandmother.   He may not have been.   But on Feb. 20 he's been on a two-week bender mourning his grandmother.   Word is reaching OTHER members of the organization that, 'Hey, your GM is not responding to anything.   Can we talk?"   

Not only is he dealing with that death, but the team is approaching the most intense time of year for his job.   And he's not answering texts or voicemail.   Scot WANTS to get his **** straight, but it's spiraling out of control for him.   It's to a point if he just ignores the phone and the texts it'll go away.   The bottle calls.   The team sees he's struggling.   They demand he get back in.   He shows up on Feb. 20 blitzed.   He's not "sent home" exactly as reported, but he's told, "Dude, you're not ok man.   Get your head right."

Now the team is answering questions about whether the GM will be at the combine.   No.   He'll be back in next week we think.   Honestly, at that point, I think Allen and the team thought he'd come through it.   But the detail that he was AWOL for weeks was an avalanche that hit the team at the same time.

To me it's pretty clear Scot let things out of control when dealing with his grandmother.   He stopped doing his job.   The team gave him three weeks to put it back together.   He didn't.   And they fired him.   The anonymous bus toss was unnecessary.   But it's hard to see this being because Bruce was peevish about not getting more attention when our GM is not answering his phone for weeks.

 

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On 3/11/2017 at 10:48 AM, Art said:

There's an article today on Yahoo by Chris Robinson extremely critical of the Skins anonymously dumping on Scot as a drunk.   In it, we have something of a timeline for what happened from outside the team, if the writer is true, and it does establish things pretty clearly.   In that article it is written another personnel man leaned in to the writer, Robinson, and asked if he'd talked to Scot McCloughan lately.   His voice mail is full.   He's not answering his texts.   This is prior to the combine.   The man's grandmother had recently died.   

Cooley, today, says he was not told by anyone on the team to hint that Scot's been drinking as to why he was largely kept away from the media.   And he's absolutely not lying.   But he's also not telling the truth.   As HE KNOWS if Scot was, or wasn't.   Like Paul Woody hinted in his article about wondering about Scot and seeing the red face and smelling the alcohol on his breath coming off the training camp practice field, Cooley actually is IN the building.   He knows.   
 

GM is being held down.   Why?   Someone who knows speculates, "Hey, maybe he's drinking?"   Cooley said this after Scot's grandmother died.   Scot was not answering texts.   He was not answering his phone according to Robinson.   The man may have been close to his grandmother.   He may not have been.   But on Feb. 20 he's been on a two-week bender mourning his grandmother.   Word is reaching OTHER members of the organization that, 'Hey, your GM is not responding to anything.   Can we talk?"   

Not only is he dealing with that death, but the team is approaching the most intense time of year for his job.   And he's not answering texts or voicemail.   Scot WANTS to get his **** straight, but it's spiraling out of control for him.   It's to a point if he just ignores the phone and the texts it'll go away.   The bottle calls.   The team sees he's struggling.   They demand he get back in.   He shows up on Feb. 20 blitzed.   He's not "sent home" exactly as reported, but he's told, "Dude, you're not ok man.   Get your head right."

Now the team is answering questions about whether the GM will be at the combine.   No.   He'll be back in next week we think.   Honestly, at that point, I think Allen and the team thought he'd come through it.   But the detail that he was AWOL for weeks was an avalanche that hit the team at the same time.

To me it's pretty clear Scot let things out of control when dealing with his grandmother.   He stopped doing his job.   The team gave him three weeks to put it back together.   He didn't.   And they fired him.   The anonymous bus toss was unnecessary.   But it's hard to see this being because Bruce was peevish about not getting more attention when our GM is not answering his phone for weeks.

 

 

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There are two sides to every story and the truth usually lies right in the middle.scot is an achoholic, Bruce's ego is as big as fed-ex.But now it's my belief that the only way to bring hope back to Washington is to hire another GM and fast. We need some one to rally around and believe in, and Bruce Allen sure as **** is not that person . 

#when you have a problem fix it!

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